intercepting service entrance bus bars to backfeed with generator

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malachi constant

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Hi all,

I think I have this worked out, but would appreciate some feedback.
1. Existing service to a community center. 1200A 480V 3p 4w. 1200A main fused switch. Service is located indoors on a mezzanine.
2. Owner wants to purchase a generator and transfer switch to backfeed entire building.
3. To avoid relocation of utility metering and having to buy a service entrance rated transfer switch we are planning to intercept the switchgear on the load side of the man switch.
4. The transfer switch can be conveniently located on the main floor in an empty storage room directly below the switchear. This is on an exterior wall and the generator feed can come right into it, while the normal/utility and load feeds come from directly above.
5. We have had a contractor with relevant experience look at plans and photos, ditto a custom switchgear manufacturer who will be supplying the lug connectors. We also ran it by the local electrical inspector. All are OK with it. We will need a PE to certify that the installation meets UL standards and have been advised by the contractor and manufacturer that meeting UL standards will not be an issue.
6. This morning we had a switchgear manufacturer out on site to shut down the service and take some measurements.
7. We determined this morning that the switchboard was physically too small to contain 1200A worth of feeder to each bus (four parallel 350s to each phase, times four phases, time two outgoing/incoming connections).
8. We know the historical max load is only roughly 200kVA, which at 480V works out to 240A (300A if applying 125% factor).
9. Due to physical restrictions (note in #7 above) we have decided to reduce the main fuses to 600A, and connect the intercepted bus bars to the transfer switch using a 600A feeder (two parallel 350s to each phase).
10. We will now provide a 600A transfer switch.

I think this is pretty air tight. Think I have all my bases covered. See any red flags?
 
So you are limiting the normal power from 1200A to 600A ...did you based this peak capacity on a year's load, or 6 week power recording to see peaking power? I don't know when the highest electrical demand is... you might consider doing a demand load calc.

If you have the physical space, can you consider maintaining 1200A service, split the bus with a 600A fuse and provision for future bus or cable connection. So in the future, add another 600A fuse for non essential loads... can utilize this source as "normal power" only without standby generator.

cheers, ...just my 2 cents
 
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That's a fair question. We have 30 months of utility loads we are going off of, covering three summers (which had the highest loads), and no plans for future expansion.

The utility lists peak load as "actual demand", "adjusted demand" and "billable demand" - all in kW. The kWs they list for July 2011 (the highest we have record of) are 193.6, 218, 218 respectively. Not sure which to use, but going off the adjusted/billable numbers, 218kW at 480V 3P, with 125% existing load factor I come up with 328A. We considered bringing it down to a 400A fuse and running a single #500 to each phase, but compromised on the 600A as the pair of feeders would fit at this ampacity.

Thanks!
 
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