mjf
Senior Member
The cable/phone/satellite installers I've talked to have no clue what they are or that they even exist. Maybe there is some way to get the word out to cable/phone/satellite "headquarters" so their workers can be educated.
In my opinion the White Book information means that it is only suitable for the connection of communications bonding conductors.So that means it is ok then?
I want to say no.
250.64(D)(1)(3) Connections to an aluminum or copper busbar not less
than 6 mm thick ? 50 mm wide (1?4 in. thick ? 2 in. wide)
and of sufficient length to accommodate the number of
terminations necessary for the installation. The busbar
shall be securely fastened and shall be installed in an
accessible location. Connections shall be made by a listed
connector or by the exothermic welding process. If aluminum
busbars are used, the installation shall comply with
250.64(A).
We mount these right on the meterbase all day long and pass. I get them for $ 1.50 apiece in bulk (100+)
I agree with MJF. The common distribution equipment grounding terminal strip is not listed to be installed in wet locations (unless you can actually provide a document for that exact bar that you picture that says it is).We mount these right on the meterbase all day long and pass. I get them for $ 1.50 apiece in bulk (100+)
I use them also.We mount these right on the meterbase all day long and pass. I get them for $ 1.50 apiece in bulk (100+)
Do they have to be?Are they rated for outdoor use?
I use them also.
Do they have to be?
I suppose you could place it inside an inter system bonding bridge enclosure....
We mount these right on the meterbase all day long and pass. I get them for $ 1.50 apiece in bulk (100+)
All the intersystem bonding bridge enclosures I've ever encountered clip on to the specific bridge they are sold with and each brand is a little different.
No, I put them on the outside. What is the issue? If are on the inside of a service panel they are not directly exposed to rain or snow, but they are exposed to the same relative humidity, temperature swings, and the like. In reality inside may be more severe since condensation tends to pool inside metal enclosures.Maybe not, common sense says they do. I can't think of any other electrical device/component/cable/equipment installed exposed to the weather that isn't rated for it.
or did I misinterpret and you attach them to the interior of the meter pan?
No, I put them on the outside. What is the issue? If are on the inside of a service panel they are not directly exposed to rain or snow, but they are exposed to the same relative humidity, temperature swings, and the like. In reality inside may be more severe since condensation tends to pool inside metal enclosures.
Short of direct spray from salt water I can't see why putting them on the exterior or would matter.
Yes.You are talking about an outside mounted panel, correct?
So your point is, that if the basic interior panel equipment ground bar is mounted exposed to the weather and the bar corrodes it is just as normal as the equipment ground bar corroding inside a panel and that both are OK.I put them on the outside. What is the issue? If are on the inside of a service panel they are not directly exposed to rain or snow, but they are exposed to the same relative humidity, temperature swings, and the like. In reality inside may be more severe since condensation tends to pool inside metal enclosures.
Short of direct spray from salt water I can't see why putting them on the exterior or would matter.
Again, you are saying that the same bus bar, corroded inside a 3R can, or corroded outside screwed to the metal can, is OK.Post a pic of a EGC buss screwed to the metal can of a service panel instead . . .
How many corroded bus bars have you encountered?Again, you are saying that the same bus bar, corroded inside a 3R can, or corroded outside screwed to the metal can, is OK..
More than I care to remember. . . and I don't work in areas that commonly mount the branch circuit overcurrent protection in exterior mounted 3R panels. I saw that in Denver, and I wonder if you work in areas that have it as well.How many corroded bus bars have you encountered?