No, I mean internet bandwidth. Every time someone mentions some voltage we use here in America, you have to needlessly remind them of how much simpler it is in Europe. But that is a waste of time since we aren't going to change every standard we have. You are wasting your time and increasing the entropy of the universe for no reason. 120 volts and its various iterations are here to stay.
Introduce 415/240 V as a standardized voltage
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So is my UK entropy increasing ? Or is it more than yours ?? In your opinion.............
Much like the conversation about color codes, I would not mandate anything, rather I would remove the restrictions so just do something like delete 210.6 and give people the freedom to choose.
We all endure the entropy. Me personally I get a kick out of making you repeat the same thing over and over. But I do genuinely wonder why you do it. Perhaps it's a tick or maybe you e forgotten you've already beaten that horse. Or maybe you actually think the entire industry of North America will change because you mention how it's done somewhere else?
I was trying to out comment him with 240 5-wire two phase comments
But Dang he won, It must have worked, because now all I here about is huge 416/240 systems going in.
@Besoeker3 I'll bet you a milkshake that if you measure the voltage in your house right now its closer to 240 than 230, the UK (as I recall your in Scotland) only adopted 400/230 on paper they did not run out and change anything, distribution transformers are still the same 415/240.
And in rural areas you can even find 240/480 split phase but they don't use the 480.
So why can't you answer the question about entropy ?
No split phase in Scotland. And yes, probably closer than 240V but that would still be within tolerance.
I did.
Nope.
"You are wasting your time and increasing the entropy "
So what entropy are you referring to?
The topic here was 415/240V. Maybe you can stick to that..............
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The entropy generated by the irreversible processes of the human body.
Why did you cut the sentence off there? It continues.
Yes, but is that related to 415/240V or any otjher voltage?
Yes. The voltage in North America isn't going to change, so what is the point of reminding us of how simple you are?
Good man!
Nor UK. So why does that relate to entropy?
You keep bringing it up. Every time you use energy to transmit the same message, the entropy of the entire universe increases
Yes, I know what it is so why did YOU introduce it when the subject is about 415/240V ?
Because of post #23.
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Dell makes 200-277v AC input power supply. They also have DC input supplies at line voltage level, as well as negative 48-60v DC range.
I think with the latter, it could simply operate on a battery bank that's maintained at float voltage. If the battery charger power is lost, it seamlessly transfer to battery much like how things in your car keeps working after shutting off the engine. This eliminates the double conversion UPS loss.
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Data centers use sufficient quantity of identical power supplies that engineering changes to make minor modifications to input voltage is probably economical.
Which was unrelated to entropy so stick to the topic which is 415/240 V