Is a ground needed

[nickelec]

Hi everybody I'm having a discussion with my Foreman he says that a ground is needed in each one of these runs I say no what we have is four sets of 500 MCM run in 4 inch PVC pipe from the Poco property line box to a main disconnect in the building

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[dkidd]

If it is a service, then no grounds, just neutrals.

 

[nickelec]

If it is a service, then no grounds, just neutrals.

I agree but in your opinion what determines the service point in a nec aspect is the service point the property line box or the disconnect inside so are my wires secs or Feeders

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[nickelec]

I say secs

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[petersonra]

I agree but in your opinion what determines the service point in a nec aspect is the service point the property line box or the disconnect inside so are my wires secs or Feeders

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what is in the "property line box"? is it just a j-box owned by the poco?

 

[mwm1752]

Service laterals have a grounded conductor & no equipment ground is not needed -- there are exceptions for grounded conductor -- what brand is the black piping & are the coupling approved for its installation -- without couplings it looks like primary laterals -- looks like it will be concrete covered since depth looks shallow

 

[GoldDigger]

Whether the conductors are the responsibility of POCO or customer depends on where the service point is. But either way they are service conductors up to the service disconnect (which must contain or be adjacent to the service OCPD).

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[nickelec]

Property line box is just a j box where the Poco makes there connection but the bottom line is no ground in those pipes lol I'm pretty sure I was right about that point

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