SSDriver
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I know NEC does not, but it does say you have to follow manufacturers instructions
Is a loop required under a receptacle screw?
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Another C10
Electrical Contractor 1987 - present
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- Southern Cal
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- Electrician NEC 2020
Back wired or stab in is the best design for quick finish work but horrible for long term functionality, although I have to admit it's an easy money maker on correcting the ... "1/2 of my room doesn't work call" .Back wire is the best of both worlds
Another C10
Electrical Contractor 1987 - present
- Location
- Southern Cal
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- Electrician NEC 2020
not to be a smart alec but we put way to much criteria on what is or is not written within the NEC ... I don't think the NEC tells us to wear gloves or what tool is best for the job either. point being sometimes our educated common sense will prevail, not meaning to bash your personal character , just using your noted comment as a talking point. Yes some techniques are better than others, we don't need a boardroom of NEC rule makers to come to that conclusion for us.
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We would except for the confusing metric wire sizes.FWIW we use crimp pins and coloured ferrules. Works for us.
These are all controls, all 1.0mm, not a lot to be confused about..........................
110.3(B)
Delta_Dave
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- Contractor
Ok. It's one of those 'install to manufacturer's instructions'. So an Inspector could fail an inspection if he saw it and knew.
Frank DuVal
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Wait, let me use Google to see what size that is in an available ordering size from the supply house.These are all controls, all 1.0mm, not a lot to be confused about..........................
Oh No! 1.04 mm ² is 17 AWG, not happening here.
I use ferrules a lot in cabinets like that. Unless the devices have nice clamps, then I do not.
electricmanscott
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Side note, that's been removed and replaced for 2023 to gender neutral language.
No - but the rest of the world does..................Wait, let me use Google to see what size that is in an available ordering size from the supply house.
Oh No! 1.04 mm ² is 17 AWG, not happening here.
GeorgeB
ElectroHydraulics engineer (retired)
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- Greenville SC
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- Retired
I think he was joking with you. Much (if not most) of our industrial controls wiring uses ferrules. Our wall switches and typical 15 and 20 amp receptacles have 5 screws for our duplex outlets; 2 hot, 2 neutral, 1 for that bare, green, or yellow-green. Only the green and neutral are seen in this view.These are all controls, all 1.0mm, not a lot to be confused about..........................
Why 5 you ask? The brass tab between the silver screws showing can be broken to separate the 2 receptacles on the 1 yoke.
Another C10
Electrical Contractor 1987 - present
- Location
- Southern Cal
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- Electrician NEC 2020
well that doesn't impress me much, I like the numeric system I know, it's worked well within our construction industry and so far structures still stand tall and strong. I'm better at fractions I suppose.No - but the rest of the world does..................
And that's fine. But you don't fractions with currency like dollars or pounds.
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