Is this NEC compliant?

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Hello. I recently had a trip to Barbados and while there i ran across this particular way of feeding a panel.
Is this NEC compliant?

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Yes, that is NEC compliant as long as the breaker has an additional hold down securing device other than the bus bar stabs. I'm not sure of the code section at the moment. This particular installation is not NEC compliant, but seeing as it's Barbados who knows?

Interesting wiring there. An American GE panel with British color coded wiring....very strange. :confused:
 
There are panels that will accept main lug kits, However I have never seen one that accepted the lock down kit on that part of the panel. Generally it is at the top for GE panels. Also why are there two conductors under one lug at the top right of the panel when there is a spare lug right next to it???:-?

Anyway I believe this is not NEC compliant based n what I stated above. I doubt the panel is approved for this purpose and it would need a lock down kit.
 
TOOL_5150 said:
you have never taken a peek at something you questioned?? ;):grin:

~Matt
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Never been gutsy enough to remove a panel cover.

Were you suited up? What about other passersby?

Think of the liability you invoked on yourself here. Suppose you damaged something in your quest for a photo. Let's say, since it looks like the back-fed breaker isn't held down, that when you took the cover off, it fell out and arced. Best case scenario, you push it back in, take your photo, and all is well.

Suppose, in a worst-case scenarioa, the arcing causes so much damage that the bus bars are irreperably damaged. Now the panel needs replaced. You'd be on the hook. And the panel feeds a restaurant, or casino, so they not only sue you for the panel replacement, but lost revenue. Then to top it off, as all this is transpiring, an ambulance-chasing lawyer catches wind of your hijinks.

Kinda kills enjoying vacation.
 
480sparky said:
Never been gutsy enough to remove a panel cover.

Were you suited up? What about other passersby?

Think of the liability you invoked on yourself here. Suppose you damaged something in your quest for a photo. Let's say, since it looks like the back-fed breaker isn't held down, that when you took the cover off, it fell out and arced. Best case scenario, you push it back in, take your photo, and all is well.

Suppose, in a worst-case scenarioa, the arcing causes so much damage that the bus bars are irreperably damaged. Now the panel needs replaced. You'd be on the hook. And the panel feeds a restaurant, or casino, so they not only sue you for the panel replacement, but lost revenue. Then to top it off, as all this is transpiring, an ambulance-chasing lawyer catches wind of your hijinks.

Kinda kills enjoying vacation.
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there's a rule that supersedes liability issues.....

"what happens in barbados, stays in barbados"

i'm more concerned with the quality of the man's vacation myself....
the need to do exploratory sparking indicates a serious lack of fun
being experienced during said vacation, and that is a far greater
risk than a mere arc flash incident.

arc flash = burned and maimed
no fun vacation = much, much worse than that

i remember a vacation to maui once, with a 5'4" bimbette, 9 pounds
of crazy in a 5 pound bag, and at 5 am, watching the sun come up
on the beach at "jaws", i'd of gladly traded the experience for a
40 calorie arc flash incident. no questions asked.
 
My guess is someone was working on something and he saw the panel.

I might take my tools along in the car, to the airport, but that's all the further they're goin' on vacation.:smile:
 
Just to clear some ideas up, i was visiting a friend, He is interested in buying that property, so i tagged a long the ride to give him some advised. The main breaker at the meter was off, so the panel was not energized.

plus "what happens in barbados, stays in barbados"
 
glene77is said:
Peter,


I was just reading in anothe thread, and ...
the new UK British color code is Brown Black Red with Blue Neutral.
Or was it Brown Black Yellow ?
but definitely I read 'Blue Neutral' !
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The color code rules were changed in the UK to "harmonize" with the European color codes which is prevalent. The Euro color code is brown, black and gray with a blue neutral and a green/yellow earth/ground.

Before that, the British color code was: red, yellow and blue with a black neutral and a green earth/ground.
 
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