Isn't this awesome
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ggunn
PE (Electrical), NABCEP certified
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kwired
Electron manager
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Awlrighty then
LarryFine
Master Electrician Electric Contractor Richmond VA
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"The new self-heating sink!"
romex jockey
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thx....i needed a laugh Jraef :lol:~RJ~
Cow
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- Eastern Oregon
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- Electrician
I never understood the need for receptacles in commercial bathrooms.
kwired
Electron manager
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Also needs an in use WP cover
There are some where it may be likely for personal use at times, this typically not going to be in retail stores, public event venues and similar. Then there may be need for one (not necessarily near sink) for a vacuum, floor buffer, etc.
Kansas Mountain
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I'd agree they are underutilized the majority of the time. However, I typically try to have at least (1) outlet in every room, even storage closets and what not. Never know when an owner will want to plug in a dehumidifier, need power for a plug-and-cord tool, portable space heater, etc. Probably excessive, but this is the golden age of CYA.
kwired
Electron manager
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- NE Nebraska
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- EC
And where do you stop? Better put in a couple 50 amp welder receptacles and a 200 amp 277/480 volt pin and sleeve style receptacle as well, just in case.
Kansas Mountain
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ggunn
PE (Electrical), NABCEP certified
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- Austin, TX, USA
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- Consulting Electrical Engineer - Photovoltaic Systems
Just like everything else, you stop where the likelihood of such a thing being needed falls below the pain of installing it.
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- San Francisco Bay Area, CA, USA
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- Electrical Engineer
Well that's a new one on me. I had to install grab bars for a relative with MS years ago, everyone at that time was adamant that they could ONLY be screwed into studs.
Incidentally, another gottcha for that installation from the ADA:
"...nothing can be installed directly behind the grab bar"
MAC702
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Not a very good rule. For example, does that include new tile? wallpaper? One could argue that a flush-mounted receptacle wouldn't count, too, even though it's probably 1/4". Just don't plug anything in.
Look at it from a time perspective, and it wouldn't include anything existing before the grab bar was installed, too.
Does that rule only apply when a grab bar is required by its law? Or does it apply to every optional grab bar out there?
Adamjamma
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sure, why not? Can I put the welders all on one breaker since they probably will not be used?
ptonsparky
Tom
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- EC - retired
Sounds reasonable and it is done that way.
That's funny Dennis. I worked on a job about 15 years ago where the homeowner/general contractor changed the swing on a half dozen doors. No one noticed until the walkthrough. The doors were installed after we had trimmed out the house. No corrections were made that I know of. We wired to the onsite blueprints which had failed to get corrected.
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