Jumping Meter Socket with #10 Wire

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Hey all..

Thanks in advance for the replies.

We all know its wrong to have the line and loads from a meter socket jumped by using a single piece of THHN, but what article specifically details that violation?

Any help would be appreciated
 
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Is this a POCO meter?

Roger
 
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Its not a code viloation other than citing that the equipment is being wired and connected in a manner that is not suitable or as designed.

It will most likely be a violation of the law if used for the theft of power. And as Roger alluded to, the POCO will not approve of this.
 
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Bryan you beat me to it,Theft of services.PSSSST Don`t tell anyone but I have a set of listed meter bypasses in my tool box
 
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I forgot to mention there is a way to fool the 50 a gfci breaker on a t pole.Cost about $225.00
3.5 kva trans.,4 wire range cord 150 ft10/4 30a 4 wire twist lock m/f and a 30 amp dryer cap.
Trans creates its own neutral gfci doesn`t see it so whamo light up the house.Oh yeah insp wants a sign on panel energized equiptment ;)
 
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His whole situation / set up just amazes me. :(

Put out a male to male cord for the inspector. :roll:

One day someone will die and the "S" will hit the fan.
 
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It's not a good thing.However here we can not get power turned on till there is a CO.This leaves us with few choices.Waiting till CO means if there is anything wrong then we must deal with furniture and homeowner that is now moved in.Personally i will run romex to the T pole and hook it to the panel (no plugs).The idea of the transformer is that the primary stays balanced so won't trip.Other than it's weight i think its a good idea.Not very fond of the back feed to the dryer.That is an accident waiting to happen.
If you want to jump the meter then buy the correct jumpers.But most poco are cracking down on this.It is theft even if only 10 cents.Check with the poco first.A promlem with using #10 to jump it is your doing damage to the jaws of the meter socket.
 
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There is no reason you have to use a GFCI breaker in the first place.

Installing a GFCI than building a workaround so it does not function seems to be off the wall. :confused:
 
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Bob, the gfci is required on our T poles.You do not need to have a 240 receptacle but if you do it must be gfci
 
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Are they using the NEC as reason for requiring the GFCI or is it a local code?

Roger
 
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Originally posted by jimwalker:
Bob, the gfci is required on our T poles.You do not need to have a 240 receptacle but if you do it must be gfci
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Jim, the requirement is for working GFCI protection, not simply a GFCI breaker in the panel that has been rigged not to work. :D
 
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"I wonder if Allan drives a ground rod for the SDS. "
There would already be 2 ground rods on this house that he is hooking up.And he is not stopping the gfci breaker from working.He simply did not give it a reason to trip :D
 
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Originally posted by roger:
Are they using the NEC as reason for requiring the GFCI or is it a local code?

Roger
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Roger I am sure there is a local amendment to 527.6.

It is probably right beside the one for 406.6 ;)
 
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Bob, even if they stayed with the receptacle, they could invest in a legal pad and some pencils and simply use an Assured Equipment Grounding Conductor Program and a proper cord during the time the house is connected to the temporary.

However, I like your idea better.

Roger
 
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Originally posted by jimwalker:
There would already be 2 ground rods on this house that he is hooking up.
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I guess your joking here as he would need to run an GEC to them from the bonding point, the EGC does not count. :p
 
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Originally posted by iwire:
Roger I am sure there is a local amendment to 527.6.

It is probably right beside the one for 406.6 ;)
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You're probably right. ;)

Roger
 
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There are no local ammendments to the NEC in Florida, just a bunch of wacky insectors working in backwards jurisdictions. Seems like some of the contractors are pretty wacky and backwards as well. :p
 
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Originally posted by bphgravity:
just a bunch of wacky inspectors working in backwards jurisdictions.
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Can you gather them up and have them attend your classes....please? :cool:

[ November 09, 2005, 08:49 PM: Message edited by: iwire ]
 
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Originally posted by iwire:
Originally posted by bphgravity:
just a bunch of wacky inspectors working in backwards jurisdictions.
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Can you gather them up and have them attend your classes....please? :cool:
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I think it would behoove the inspectors and contractors to take some your classes Bryan.


Roger

[ November 09, 2005, 09:17 PM: Message edited by: roger ]
 
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