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Does stranded wire have the same cross section as solid wire. We have some 500 KCMIL in a 4 wire cable with really small strands. It does not fit under a 500 KCMIL lug. But, a 500 kcmil THHN fits it just fine. Shouldn't it be the same size if it is 500 KCMIL? Even with smaller sizes it seems a #10 solid is smaller than a #10 stranded.
 
Has same cross sectional area of metal. Round strands will have gaps between them taking up more area.

"compact stranded conductors" are much closer to the same overall dimension as a solid conductor of same size.
 
The wire size is NOT diameter, it is cross sectional area of the copper itself. So when you have more strands to achieve the same cross sectional area, you have more air gaps between strands and thus more diameter.

Separate issue, because based on your question, it appears you may not know this:

There are what are called "classes" of stranding, having to do with the number of strands in a given cross sectional area. Most building wire stranding is Class B (37 strands) or Class C (61 strands). Mechanical lugs are rated for a very specific maximum stranding class, usually B, sometimes C, so you have to read the stranding class for a lug if using anything other than class B ( which is what your standard THHN cable will be). If you are using something like DLO cable with Class H stranding, (467 strands) you cannot use standard mechanical lugs at all. There are a few mechanical lugs out there rated for Class H stranding, but they are often not off the shelf. The usual way to terminate high strand cables is to use compression lugs, but even then it takes special lugs and dies.
 
I agree they will not be the same size.

Does stranded wire have the same cross section as solid wire. We have some 500 KCMIL in a 4 wire cable with really small strands.

How small are the strands?

Are we talking 12 AWG strands or 22AWG strands?
 
Does stranded wire have the same cross section as solid wire. We have some 500 KCMIL in a 4 wire cable with really small strands. It does not fit under a 500 KCMIL lug. But, a 500 kcmil THHN fits it just fine. Shouldn't it be the same size if it is 500 KCMIL? Even with smaller sizes it seems a #10 solid is smaller than a #10 stranded.
Note that you need terminations listed as suitable for use with the fine stranded conductors. The common terminations are only suitable for use with Class B and C stranding.
 
Does stranded wire have the same cross section as solid wire. We have some 500 KCMIL in a 4 wire cable with really small strands. It does not fit under a 500 KCMIL lug. But, a 500 kcmil THHN fits it just fine. Shouldn't it be the same size if it is 500 KCMIL? Even with smaller sizes it seems a #10 solid is smaller than a #10 stranded.

Did you ever notice that some mfgs have different strippers for stranded wire vs solid wire? I believe ideal strippers state solid on some of their strippers
 
Did you ever notice that some mfgs have different strippers for stranded wire vs solid wire? I believe ideal strippers state solid on some of their strippers
Yes, smaller sizes they kind of work either way, but if it states which one it is for, it generally works better on that type then the other type.
 
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