Kiosk UL Requirement

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I recently became involved with a franchise called Planet Popolicious, in which I purchased from them, a small 10'X10' kiosk, designed and built by a company called Texas Kiosk Manufacturing. They brought the prebuilt cabinetry and appliances (popcorn warmer, fridge, ice machine, etc), and assembled on site in the mall. The wiring was prewired SSO(?) and just needed to be reconnected as all the cabinets were connected together.
The city did not approve because they stated the kiosk needed to be UL Listed since it was prebuilt. My franchisor maintains that they do not because an engineer designed the kiosk, the city approved the plans, and that that the parts were assembled on site.
My franchisor maintains that this is about their 10th kiosk install and is the 1st time they've heard of such a requirement. The city has been unwilling/difficult for them to produce what in the NEC requires the kiosk to be UL listed. If I can prove it is NEC, my franchisor would be obligated to have the kiosk UL listed as they should have them all UL. If not, then they consider it a quirky local rule and will leave me out to dry and pay for UL listing.
Any help is greatly appreciated in this matter.
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If that was the case- your kitchen cabinets would have to be listed!? I do not believe the kiosk as a whole need to be listed, but the electrical installation components that normally would, do need to be! Whether pre-wired or wired on-site should not be the defining factor in listing. All IMHO of course:smile:
 
In NY State, manufactured buildings, and manufactured structures are supposed to be licensed with our Department of State. Engineered plans and specs are submitted for approval and on-site manufacturing inspections are performed and then the manufacturer provides an isnignia/label and is subject to continued inspections, licensing, etc. Building Officials are required to examine the structures and to issue and/or deny local permits based on their findings.
 
I know that some of the considerations with regard to permitting approval have to do with the amount of contribution to fire load, the combustibility of the kiosk, the area encompassed, the effect on required egress in corridors, etc., and the wiring methods, since concourses may be considered assembly spaces depending on a host of issues.
 
The appliances are obviously UL listed. The city is saying that the electrical box (location of the breakers) should have a UL listing for the kiosk as a whole. They said "think of it like a jacuzzi" (?) They said they should just be able to come in, see the sticker on the electric box, know the kiosk has been certified and leave.
The inspector just recently emailed and refered me to Section 90-7 of the 2005 NEC and quoted "It explains in part that the AHJ (City of Gainesville in this instance) does not need to inspect factory installed internal wiring at the time of installation, if the equipment has been listed by a qualified
electrical testing laboratory.
This means any recognized testing laboratory, not specifically UL. The
Kiosk in question falls under this Code requirement and must have a
listing label attached. This is the AHJ's requirement and it must be
complied with."

Sounded like they don't have to require UL listing as long as they would inspect it, but they have chosen not to inspect in lieu of requiring UL. That sounds like a local interpretation and my franchise will leave me to pay for UL listing.
 
Is this breaker panel "built in" to the cabinet? Or is it surface mounted?
If it is surface mounted then remove it and replace it with a different panel. Thus you will not have a factory installed panel. We have run into this in my area and have completely removed "factory" wiring (nothing more than 4" squares, MC cable and RS covers) and rewired the whole thing. Then it doesn't have to be UL because it is not "Factory" wired and you are not "altering" any listing because there isn't any listing. Cheaper that paying UL.
 
If there is any type of manufactured wiring system in the kiosk assembly, with specialized wiring connections, and the kiosk came as a basically pre-assembled kit, I would say that it indeed DOES need a listing of some sort, whether it would be Underwriter's Labs or some other listing agency, it is then an assembly.
 
I believe it should have two stickers. One to identify the manufacturer and date, the other to identify the inspecting agency that inspected the work.

If no one inspected the work, then the city should not approve the installation.

If it was inspected, then there should be a record and an inspection sticker. If this is from an agency your State recongizes, then you should get your inspection.
 
Some inspectors take certain things to the extreme! If it is not a listed unit and everything is accessible then why would you just not inspect it and be done with it instead of taking an extreme stance that more than likely will not do anyone any good. I understand the importance of inspections and safety in installation, but what is the difference if you had installed the wiring on-site instead of the factory? I have had my experience with unlisted products as well!
 
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