Kitchen GFCI's..#of
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jeff43222
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Re: Kitchen GFCI's..#of
One GFCI can protect as many receptacles as there are on the circuit.
More than one circuit can be in one switchbox, provided the box-fill limits are observed.
One GFCI can protect as many receptacles as there are on the circuit.
More than one circuit can be in one switchbox, provided the box-fill limits are observed.
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I understand the principl of one GFCI being able to protect (?) the entire circuit. AND the two circuits in one switch box.
BUT....I haven't done any residential in at least 15yrs., however I am always cognicent of the fact that the home owner may not like the switching of his system, turns on a light and hollowers at his wife to let him know when the light goes off so he can (say) put in a dimmer. Light goes out and so does home owner when he reaches into the box with a live circuit.
AND as far as one GFCI protecting the entire circuit it seems more SAFE to spend a couple more dollars, use a couple more GFCI's so home owner don't loose the entire circuit every time his wife turns on the toaster, microwave, coffee pot, waffle iron and George Forman Grill all at the same time!!!!!
Just a thought.
I understand the principl of one GFCI being able to protect (?) the entire circuit. AND the two circuits in one switch box.
BUT....I haven't done any residential in at least 15yrs., however I am always cognicent of the fact that the home owner may not like the switching of his system, turns on a light and hollowers at his wife to let him know when the light goes off so he can (say) put in a dimmer. Light goes out and so does home owner when he reaches into the box with a live circuit.
AND as far as one GFCI protecting the entire circuit it seems more SAFE to spend a couple more dollars, use a couple more GFCI's so home owner don't loose the entire circuit every time his wife turns on the toaster, microwave, coffee pot, waffle iron and George Forman Grill all at the same time!!!!!
Just a thought.
jeff43222
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Re: Kitchen GFCI's..#of
I don't design circuits so as to prevent non-electricians from hurting themselves if they start working on their wiring. The homeowner you describe shouldn't be working on his own wiring. Electricians would go nuts if they had to idiot-proof all of their work.
The circuit index inside the panel should be kept up to date so anyone who intends to work on wiring inside a switchbox should be able to determine how many circuits are inside and shut off the corresponding breakers accordingly. Additionally, anyone working on wiring should have the proper testing tools to see if they are working on live or dead wires.
As for the GFCIs, they protect against ground faults, not overloads. Putting a GFCI at every receptacle will not prevent the circuit breaker from tripping if it is overloaded.
[ August 10, 2004, 12:22 PM: Message edited by: jeff43222 ]
I don't design circuits so as to prevent non-electricians from hurting themselves if they start working on their wiring. The homeowner you describe shouldn't be working on his own wiring. Electricians would go nuts if they had to idiot-proof all of their work.
The circuit index inside the panel should be kept up to date so anyone who intends to work on wiring inside a switchbox should be able to determine how many circuits are inside and shut off the corresponding breakers accordingly. Additionally, anyone working on wiring should have the proper testing tools to see if they are working on live or dead wires.
As for the GFCIs, they protect against ground faults, not overloads. Putting a GFCI at every receptacle will not prevent the circuit breaker from tripping if it is overloaded.
[ August 10, 2004, 12:22 PM: Message edited by: jeff43222 ]
jimwalker
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Re: Kitchen GFCI's..#of
It is the home owner that knows just enough about electric to get himself fried that scares me.Either your quailified or your not.If in dought call a sparky
It is the home owner that knows just enough about electric to get himself fried that scares me.Either your quailified or your not.If in dought call a sparky
hurk27
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Re: Kitchen GFCI's..#of
Sound's like what the mechanics say's
Sound's like what the mechanics say's
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Re: Kitchen GFCI's..#of
And all grounds are tied together in that box
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