Labor to run emt.

[peter d]

They told me to.

Well, I guess that settles it then.

 

[boboelectric]

do you just buy your material there?

 

[iwire]

do you just buy your material there?

Well yes and no.

We supply all the material which we shop out to our suppliers, except the wire. Lowe's purchases the wire and ships it to us.

Keep in mind the store at this point is just a big empty box.

 

[growler]

Lowe's purchases the wire and ships it to us.

And why not? With the sure volume of wire purchased by either Lowe's or Home Depot they can probably get and even better deal than most electrical suppliers. :grin:

It would be interesting to see what a spool of #12 THHN solid cost straight from the manufacturer when you can buy about a billion spools a year.

 

[LawnGuyLandSparky]

And why not? With the sure volume of wire purchased by either Lowe's or Home Depot they can probably get and even better deal than most electrical suppliers. :grin:

It would be interesting to see what a spool of #12 THHN solid cost straight from the manufacturer when you can buy about a billion spools a year.

Everything is negotiable, but don't buy too much into this retail marketing concept that "we buy in bulk, and pass the savings on to you" bit.

One unit special ordered would cost a premium. 1000 units every month would get a good discount. After a point, no manufacturer can continue discounting wholesale prices no matter how many are ordered.

Manufacturers of quality-well known products are regularily "pressed" to supply discounters with lower-quality, "made specifically for the discount market" variations of their normal merchandise. Notice most power tools sold through HD and LOWES have a unique serial number? The Milwakee sawzall purchased at HD is NOT the same one you'd get from a tool supplier, even though the "model numbers" are identical.

 

[mattsilkwood]

They told me to.

The entire job is pipe other then re-loc for the lighting fixtures.

It appears to be a Lowe's choice, security in pipe as well.

just curious have you guys had any trouble with the reloc cables?
i was on a lowes last year and you had to watch which cables you used they were different for regular and emergency circiuts. also on their lights we had about 50 that had bad connections on the ballasts.

 

[mattsilkwood]

also all the fire and security was in cable tray

 

[HighWirey]

Estimating

Estimating

Compression fittings, shoot in anchors (all concrete), all thread, and minis. Or strut for part of the runs.

The plot thickens . . .

Perhaps you would benefit from Mr. Holt's Estimating Course, before you get in too deep. I know I did.

Source for a NECA Labor Unit Estimating Manual:
http://www.necanet.org/store/index...._results_sites&index_number=4090-07S&site=mei

RS Means, another estimating manual, can be had from The Construction BookStore in Gainsville, FL USA
http://www.constructionbook.com/xq/ASP/qx/default2.htm?CMP=KNC-Google

Best Wishes

 

[growler]

The Milwakee sawzall purchased at HD is NOT the same one you'd get from a tool supplier, even though the "model numbers" are identical.

Yes, this is true, I have herd that real Milwaukee tools are made by elves.

 

[Rockyd]

Growler,

Tell Santa that I'd be willing to accept J.I.T. delivery on the 24th!

 

[iwire]

The Milwakee sawzall purchased at HD is NOT the same one you'd get from a tool supplier, even though the "model numbers" are identical.

As a side note Milwaukee was bought out by Ryobi a while ago. You all can make your own assumptions what that will do to Milwaukee's quality.

Edit; To be accurate the Japanese company that owns AEG, Ryobi, Stiletto, Homelite, Hoover, Dirt Devil, and Vax also bought out Milwaukee.

 

[peter d]

Edit; To be accurate the Japanese company that owns AEG, Ryobi, Stiletto, Homelite, Hoover, Dirt Devil, and Vax also bought out Milwaukee.

Minor correction: The company, Techtronic Industries, is based in Hong Kong with extensive manufacturing in (surprise!) mainland China.

http://www.ttigroup.com/general/home.php

 

[buddyboxtoolcase]

How long does it take to run say 100' of 3/4" emt in hours? No wire just boxes and emt.

Does anyone use a sliding scale. ex. If you had a small job of 50' to run . The time in labor would be more than 100' run.

Or if the run is much longer less time involved. I'm using 8 hours per 100' for estimates now, but I'm starting to think that is too much time on a large job.

I use labor and material in a wall opening dollar value per unit. 100 to 200 feet of small conduit would be a good estimate on 8 hours. obiously larger jobs have room for a lower value per opening. I figure on 100.00 per opening on nm cable jobs with an addition for special circuits or service gear. On commercial I figure on 150 to 200 per opening plus fixtures and load centers. On larger jobs of the emt 2 hours per opening with materials at 25 to 30 % comes up to 250 per opening and add the fixture lot package quote from supplier and switch gear and any special equipment added.

 

[buddyboxtoolcase]

100 feet per 8 hours is a safe amount. I myself have installed with boxes in hotel type construction, wood stud, as much as 250 to 300 per 8 hours but I was really trying hard. I mean one room at a time outlets, lighting, fire alarm and tel. and data, but I would expect at least 8 to 10 boxes per 8 hours completely piped as an average about 150 feet of emt.

 

[hardworkingstiff]

Wow

Wow

I haven't run much EMT is quite a while. I seems to me that estimating 100' in a 6-8 hour day will keep you from getting a job. Is that estimate per crew or per man (ie: a 2-man crew will do 100-200' or 200-400')?

Even in a crowded office building, I would think a well organized 2-man crew could run 300-400' in an 8-hour day.

If you are allowing 8-hours for 100' of EMT, how much time do you allow for 100' of rigid?

 

[Rockyd]

100' of EMT vs 100' of GRC...


Small rigid is fairly flexible (1" and smaller), and if a person is experienced in rigid, it shouldn't be signicantly different if a person plays smart.

One understands how much GRC another person has ran, when he knows he doesn't probably need a more than a few eriksons (three piece couplings). to do a significant amount of work.

Some of the fittings like the Arllington Anybody may seem time consuming, but may be something to consider having in the mix for effiency, vs a std fitting.

Rigid doesn't always need a "pretty' bender either, a hickey works well. For that matter I've used lots of diffrent things for bending GRC, such as the bolts (over an 1 1/2" in diameter normally won't scuff the pipe either) around a tank work good. If it's U/G, a backhoe and a chain work surprisingly well.