Landlord House Panel

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Is there a requirement in the NEC that the Landlord's House lights & circuits be on a seperate metered panel that the tenants?

The Landlord wants to eliminate the House Panel & put exterior lighting on the tenant panels. Apparently the local power company does not care which way as long as someone pays for the power.

Is there some other code (than NEC) that address this issue (such as energy code)?

Thanks

I should have clarified - This a commercal project (strip retail center), not residential.

Robert
 
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If your state building code references the 2005 NEC then 210.25 would apply.

In my area if the utility company catches a landord doing this a minimum fine of $5000.00 would apply.



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rcarroll said:
No such requirement in the code.
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I guess that's technically true. No express requirement in the NEC for a seperate meter, but 210.25 does seem to say that you need to get the owner circuits from a seperate panel.
 
Robert Maddox said:
Is there a requirement in the NEC that the Landlord's House lights & circuits be on a seperate metered panel that the tenants?

The Landlord wants to eliminate the House Panel & put exterior lighting on the tenant panels. Apparently the local power company does not care which way as long as someone pays for the power.

Is there some other code (than NEC) that address this issue (such as energy code)?

Thanks
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Is this a duplex and would either tenant need the light provided from the other ?
 
rcarroll said:
Then, do I stand uncorrected?:-?
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I'm just not sure. It says that the owner circuits can't be supplied from the same "equipment" as the tennant circuits. A meter pack is "equipment". I don't think the code writers intend for the owner circuits to originate from a completely seperate and distinct service, but you could read it that way. I think they want the owner stuff on its own metering equipment and its own panel. If the seperate owner meter was a gang of a meter stack, that's technically from the same "equipment". I think we all know what the code section probably means, but that's not quite what it says.
 
210.25 only applies to dwelling units (unless I'm reading it wrong), he said this was a shopping center ?
 
mdshunk said:
Oh, and also check out 210.25.
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What about for an RV storage building, each bay having it's own service? Since it's not a multi-family dwelling, do you think it should have small house panel to feed security, outside lighting etc,? Thanks in advance.
 
nakulak said:
210.25 only applies to dwelling units (unless I'm reading it wrong), he said this was a shopping center ?
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this changes in 2008 code. Under 2008 code they include commercial buidings. they took care of that 'loop hole' ;)

210.25 Branch Circuits in Buildings with more than one occupancy.

(B)Common Area Branch Circuits. Branch circuits required for the purpose of lighting, central alarm, signal, communications, or other needs for public or common areas of 2 family dwelling, a multifamily dwelling, or a MULI OCCUPANCY BUILDING shall not be supplied from equipment that supplies an individual dwelling unit or TENANT SPACE.


So in commecial 'TENANT SPACE' they can NOT do it in 2008 code.
 
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