Laundry Circuit, Gen. Purpose Receptacles
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Jerramundi
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I understand the position you guys are taking and I'm not trying to be difficult.
I think as code experts yourselves, you understand where someone like me is coming from with the focus on individual words and being nitpicky about various potential interpretations... whereas some people might have a hard time understanding why we're even having this discussion.
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I do agree that 210.11(C)(2) clearly references multiple "outlet(s)"... but, it also says "...outlet(s) required by 210.52(F)."
In what case would 210.52(F) require more than one? Couldn't you argue that any outlet beyond the "at least one" would be a non-required outlet? So if every additional outlet beyond the "at least one" is an elective outlet, how can 210.11(C)(2) reference multiple required outlet(s)???
Which forces me to look more closely at the wording of 210.52(F) and discover that it is referring to "dwelling units," plural... and a dwelling unit by definition in 100 is a singular living space.
Therefore, the only way I can make sense of this is that 210.52(F) is talking about MULTIPLE dwelling units and a single receptacle required in each individual laundry area of each individual unit.
Ergo (haha), I still think my interpretation carries weight... that the wording in 210.52(F) of "at least one" is requiring a minimum of one receptacle in the space, as opposed to giving permission to install multiple receptacles.
Ergo some more (heh)... 210.11(C)(2) it is requiring that minimum of a single receptacle required by 210.52(F) to be on that dedicated 20A circuit w/ no other outlets... and that the plurality of 210.11(C)(2) you all are referencing is referring to the "dwelling units" of 210.52(F).
To back that up even further, 210.52(F) also references "[laundry] areas" and in what case would you have multiple areas for laundry in a single unit? It has to be referring back to the multiple dwelling units.
Either way, I'm not saying you're wrong, but I think the safe interpretation is dedicated 20A ckt. feeding one receptacle outlet.
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that is not remotely a response to what I said, it is a totally different topic
Either way, I'm not saying you're wrong, but I think the safe interpretation is dedicated 20A ckt. feeding one receptacle outlet.
and you are certainly welcomed to follow that route on your installations/
Your opinion has been duly noted if others wish to follow that path.
and you are certainly welcomed to follow that route on your installations/
Your opinion has been duly noted if others wish to follow that path.
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Not what the codes says or intends...if you want to build that way fine, but if you are insisting others build that way, you are off base.
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Haha in almost every post you agree with everyone then go right back to pushing your interpretation. Let me put it this way many people if not all on this forum disagree with you. There is not much else to discuss as you have beaten this to death....
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