Laundry Dedicated circuit

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Fred B

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You can't stop a user from running a cord through a doorway, but you can't supply a stationary appliance that way.
HO will do what a HO will do, can't stop them. A Forest Gump, "Stupid is as stupid does." Just do your best to make it less likely or unnecessary for the HO from doing an unsafe or noncompliant (from perspective of Code) thing.
 

retirede

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HO will do what a HO will do, can't stop them. A Forest Gump, "Stupid is as stupid does." Just do your best to make it less likely or unnecessary for the HO from doing an unsafe or noncompliant (from perspective of Code) thing.

This thread isn’t about what the user will or will not do. It’s about where to place the required receptacle for the washing machine when wiring the house.
 

kwired

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A remodel I worked on last summer had a fancy Bosch washer that was 240 volt.
Luckily I had asked about what appliances they had chosen. The HO showed me a picture of the appliances on the Lowe’s website. I just coincidentally looked at the washer and saw it was 240.
I had to run an additional 120v circuit to satisfy code.
This was the first I’d seen of 240v washer. And it was smaller than what I consider a “normal size” washer..
Did it only have a cold water inlet and heated water as needed?
 

Fred B

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This thread isn’t about what the user will or will not do. It’s about where to place the required receptacle for the washing machine when wiring the house.
Replying with Larry's comment as highlighted in my comment, not addressing any electrical professional.
 

rnatalie

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I believe it’s generally accepted that the required laundry circuit is for the washing machine even if it doesn’t specifically say so. With your closet installation, that’s the only thing it could be used for!
Actually, I'll disagree for this. While the washing machine is going to be plugged in there, the reason for the 20A circuit is likely because they fear you're going to run an iron there.
 

jim dungar

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Actually, I'll disagree for this. While the washing machine is going to be plugged in there, the reason for the 20A circuit is likely because they fear you're going to run an iron there.
Except for when the laundry is in basements I think usually there is barely enough room to move much less set up an ironing board.
 

kwired

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Except for when the laundry is in basements I think usually there is barely enough room to move much less set up an ironing board.
maybe. many different people out there that live differently. laundry in my house isn't in basement, but not a lot of extra room in the "closet" that the laundry is in. The basement is finished living space other than one storage room and a mechanical room. One end of it does have grade level access though making it seem less like a basement.
 

Greg1707

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This thread is very timely. I just received a call yesterday from a customer that is purchasing a new washer/dryer and needs a 120 volt outlet. This is a photo of a condominium that was built in 2004. I am surprised at the missing 20 amp outlet. Laundry closet.jpeg
 

James L

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Actually, I'll disagree for this. While the washing machine is going to be plugged in there, the reason for the 20A circuit is likely because they fear you're going to run an iron there.
I think the laundry circuit has been required since about the 1950s, back when people used ringer washers that were built like tanks and probably used 13 to 14 amps.
 

rnatalie

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Except for when the laundry is in basements I think usually there is barely enough room to move much less set up an ironing board.
I didn't say it was likely, I just figured that was what the code writers were thinking. We were just as likely to iron in our bedroom on its shared 15A circuit, just as my daughter couldn't be convinced to run her 3 KW blowdrier in the bathroom rather than her bedroom.
 

kwired

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I didn't say it was likely, I just figured that was what the code writers were thinking. We were just as likely to iron in our bedroom on its shared 15A circuit, just as my daughter couldn't be convinced to run her 3 KW blowdrier in the bathroom rather than her bedroom.
You have a 3kW blow dryer? And if so with a 5-15 plug?
 

Hv&Lv

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And the EE as well as the inspector should know there is a required 20 amp 120 volt laundry circuit in code. If there is a preliminary plan review it should even been caught then.

Hhsting missed it...

😂
 

Hv&Lv

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You trust the information on that one? at one point they claiming the motor is 3500 W. That be like almost a 5 hp motor.
No, I don’t trust much of anything on Amazon without good investigation.
I posted that to show where some information may come from and why someone thought they had a 3000 watt HD

I think the 3000 watt hair dryer comment was a tongue-in-cheek comment meant to be funny rather than taken as serious.
 
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