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Lcdrwalker said:
Utility 'area'.
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Why would where the laundry be located make a difference? I've done laundry circuits in laundry rooms, utility rooms, mud rooms, bedrooms, bathrooms, basements, closets, hallways, garages.....
 
I would say no. What you are describing is a nook or closet not a room. It might come down to whose definition of room you have to use.
 
Chamuit said:
I would say no. What you are describing is a nook or closet not a room. It might come down to whose definition of room you have to use.
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What difference does where the laundry is located have to do with whether a receptacle is required for it?
 
:grin: If you have a closet and you put in a 30a 240v 4wire receptacle for a combo unit. Shove the unit in front of the recept and there is not any usable space left around the combo unit do you have a "laundry?"

I say nay!!

Be like cutting a hole in the wall, put a frig in and call it a kitchen.:grin:
 
Chamuit said:
:grin: If you have a closet and you put in a 30a 240v 4wire receptacle for a combo unit. Shove the unit in front of the recept and there is not any usable space left around the combo unit do you have a "laundry?"
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So? Where in the Code does that situation allow you to omit the laundry circuit?

Chamuit said:
Be like cutting a hole in the wall, put a frig in and call it a kitchen.:grin:
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Read the definition of a kitchen, and you can't call it that.
 
Food for thought: Not all stackable machines share a single power cord; many do require the separate 120v circuit.

Dessert: Is a 240v dryer circuit required even when a gas line is installed for a gas dryer? I've been told they are.
 
LarryFine said:
Food for thought: Not all stackable machines share a single power cord; many do require the separate 120v circuit.
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Very true.

Dessert: Is a 240v dryer circuit required even when a gas line is installed for a gas dryer? I've been told they are.
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Why?
Is a 40 or 50 amp 120/240 v range circuit required if the range is gas?
 
stickboy1375 said:
I find it strange I am forced to install anything to do with laundry, seems like a luxury item to me...
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Your not forced to install it when the builders of the home decide not to include a laundry area. If there are no plumbing or vent hock ups you can forget the outlet.


Never liked 210.52 anyhow.
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Yeah, me too.:grin:
 
480sparky said:
Why would where the laundry be located make a difference? I've done laundry circuits in laundry rooms, utility rooms, mud rooms, bedrooms, bathrooms, basements, closets, hallways, garages.....
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Same here. Common sense says there needs to be a place to plug the washer in.
 
480sparky said:
So are coffee pots, mixers, bread makers, cappucino machines, popcorn poppers, malt mixers and mircowaves. You still happily install the two SABCs, don't you?
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These may all be luxury items but the requirement for the 2 SABC's are for the protection of life and property. They are a good idea!
 
iaov said:
These may all be luxury items but the requirement for the 2 SABC's are for the protection of life and property. They are a good idea!
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My point exactly.

I once did a small studio apartment remodel. And I do mean small. Teeny. Tiny. Cramped. Entire apartement was 450 sq?. One step into the kitchen and that's it. Kitchen had all of 5 feet of countertop, two of which was taken up by the sink.

Now, that left a grand total of 36" of usable counter space. Technically, I could have only placed one GFI recep in the middle of that. But I still needed 2 SABCs. So the countertop got two receps. According to some here, I should have been allowed to omit one of the SABCs because the kitchen was so dinky.
 
iwire said:
Your not forced to install it when the builders of the home decide not to include a laundry area. If there are no plumbing or vent hock ups you can forget the outlet.
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That only applies to buildings that include more than one dwelling unit. For a single family dwelling unit, you don't get to omit the laundry outlet.

In any event, the requirement is for at least one receptacle outlet for the laundry, and a circuit supplying nothing other than that set of one or more laundry outlets. There is no statement in the NEC that talks about the room in which the laundry is to be installed. If you put the outlet in a space no bigger than the machines themselves, all that matters is that you installed the required outlet(s).
 
Lcdrwalker said:
Could this be a matter of semantics? What if the laundry equipment were in a utility are instead of a laundry room or maybe a closet?
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then you change the name of that space to "laundry room".
 
If I build a closet in my master bedroom, just big enough for stackable w/d, is the closet the laundry area, or does my mb become the laundry area? Any ironing I'm going to do (OK, that my wife is going to do) will be done in the mb. If the required receptacle we're talking about is for ironing and other purposes, would it have to be installed in the closet, or out in the room where I could actually use it?
 
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