Laundry receptacles

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scottau

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In the laundry room would it be permissible to have an additional circuit with receptacles that are both in this room and in a area outside of this room??
 
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interesting question...
210.52(F) only requires only one receptacle outlet. 210.11 (C) (2) mandates that the required outlet be on the 20 amp laundy circuit, and no other outlets be on that circuit.
Be interesting to see what others say, but, at first thought, if you have the required dedicated receptacle outlet, it could be argued that additional outlets need not comply with 210.11
 
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Scotta,
See 210.11(C)(2) 2005 NEC
"In addition to the number of circuits required by other parts of this section, at least one additional 20-amp branch circuit shall be provided to supply the laundry receptacle outlet(s) required by 210.52(F). This circuit shall have no other outlets."

In this apprentices opinion if you are adding an additional circuit then I see no problem, but I would be aware of GFCI requirements in 210.8(A)(7)
but lets see what others with more experience have to say.

Thanks,
Kevin
 
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Originally posted by scottau:
In the laundry room would it be permissible to have an additional circuit with receptacles that are both in this room and in a area outside of this room??
Yes, this is allowed.
 
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Yes, just make sure you have the one required and no others off the required circuit.

As kevinware points out, make sure to follow any GFCI requirements.
 
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I hate it when a consensus is reached before I get a chance to agree. So I guess I'll have to disagree, or at least divert the discussion to some slight degree. :D
 
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one good thing about the NEC, "YES" is never yes and "No" is never no; its always almost

incidently, even an ole dog learns a new trick; for years I have inspected with the answer to this as "no" because I read what I wanted (or gawd forbid, "remembered") and not what it said. One great big kudo for this forum and you guys.

[ January 19, 2006, 08:30 PM: Message edited by: augie47 ]
 
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If it leaves the laundry room in any way our inspector fails it. We wanted to power a receptacle right on other side of a short wall from the laundry (was easiest way to power it) and it was no go. On the other hand he doesn't seem to care what we power in the laundry room off of it, since we usually put the lights on the same circui, sometimes the doorbell transformer ends up there and usually any other recpetacles we put in laundry room are on the same circuit.
 
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On the other hand he doesn't seem to care what we power in the laundry room off of it, since we usually put the lights on the same circui, sometimes the doorbell transformer ends up there
So he doesn't allow one violation but allows these?
 
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Originally posted by gvmv:
If it leaves the laundry room in any way our inspector fails it. We wanted to power a receptacle right on other side of a short wall from the laundry (was easiest way to power it) and it was no go. On the other hand he doesn't seem to care what we power in the laundry room off of it, since we usually put the lights on the same circui, sometimes the doorbell transformer ends up there and usually any other recpetacles we put in laundry room are on the same circuit.
gvmv, I could be reading too much into this, so bear that in mind.

I mean no offense when I say that I'd recommend not letting inspections dictate what you do. As in, do not do "what you can get away with" if it is against code.

Upon occasion, I'll get a call from co-workers on a code question. There are two types of calls. I love honest questions. But when the question along the lines of "Do they check for spark rings in tile in Loveland?" I want to throw my phone! :)

In this case, 210.11(C)(2) says that the laundry circuit shall power laundry receptacles and that's it. No lights, nothing else.
 
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Originally posted by georgestolz:
Do what's required regardless of who's gonna look at it, please.
Just say to yourself "W.W.AHJ.D."*


*(What Would the AHJ Do?)
 
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Originally posted by scottau:
In the laundry room would it be permissible to have an additional circuit with receptacles that are both in this room and in a area outside of this room??
i say no.

See 210.11(C)(2) 2005 NEC
"In addition to the number of circuits required by other parts of this section, at least one additional 20-amp branch circuit shall be provided to supply the laundry receptacle outlet(s) required by 210.52(F). This circuit shall have no other outlets."


i think the phrase "at least" is the key here. it does not say "at most". this tells me i can load the laundry room with eleventy bazillion circuits. the next sentence specifies the requirement of the eleventy bazillion branch circuits i may or may not decide to supply to that room --> "This circuit shall have no other outlets."

i think it would be better worded to say the same thing like

" These circuits shall have no other outlets."

or

" This/These circuit shall have no other outlets."

apparently i was too late....

[ January 20, 2006, 06:52 PM: Message edited by: PlnOldRick ]
 
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