e57
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Has the world stopped turning yet?
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e57
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I just sent out a bid for a whole bunch of cut in cans in an old vic - with cutting of painted surfaces as an exclusion - lets see how well that goes over?!?>!?> 
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(tweek]c2500
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If you will foot the bill, I will be glad to come out and inspect for ya. I can maybe catch a red eye flight.
c2500
c2500
e57
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I can wait till 4-4...If you will foot the bill, I will be glad to come out and inspect for ya. I can maybe catch a red eye flight.
c2500
I talked to a guy today that took it, and said it was a big waste of time - I'm really hoping he's right....
GUNNING
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chiching!
chiching!
I just took the class today. It was like going through death and dying by Kubler-Ross... Lots of denial bargain anger acceptance...
It was a good class. Learned a lot and found out EXACTLY what I need to do. It was well worth the bucks. No big deal. Just be prepared and get a bigger truck and very expensive vacuum. Or plan the work out better. Which translates out to higher profit margins for set up and tear downs. Definitely need better contracts and insurance. Lots of good stuff from this class. Even suggested a very inexpensive and comprehensive technique. hehehehehe
chiching!
I just took the class today. It was like going through death and dying by Kubler-Ross... Lots of denial bargain anger acceptance...
It was a good class. Learned a lot and found out EXACTLY what I need to do. It was well worth the bucks. No big deal. Just be prepared and get a bigger truck and very expensive vacuum. Or plan the work out better. Which translates out to higher profit margins for set up and tear downs. Definitely need better contracts and insurance. Lots of good stuff from this class. Even suggested a very inexpensive and comprehensive technique. hehehehehe
e57
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- San Francisco, CA
Do tell maestro... It'll be 'our' little secret.Even suggested a very inexpensive and comprehensive technique. hehehehehe
c2500
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Gunning,
Please step away from the 6 mil plastic and that HEPA Vac.
c2500
Please step away from the 6 mil plastic and that HEPA Vac.
c2500
e57
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- San Francisco, CA
You "train" them - you are responsible as a 'firm'. However, if you want to be the guy who does the training, shows up to watch the plastic and signs go up, and confirm cleaning - sure... If you want your foremen to do it - they need to go....
jmellc
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- Durham, NC
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Higher profit margins? In areas like mine, we already can't price jobs low enough for anyone. They DIY, do without, or hire illegals.I just took the class today. It was like going through death and dying by Kubler-Ross... Lots of denial bargain anger acceptance...
It was a good class. Learned a lot and found out EXACTLY what I need to do. It was well worth the bucks. No big deal. Just be prepared and get a bigger truck and very expensive vacuum. Or plan the work out better. Which translates out to higher profit margins for set up and tear downs. Definitely need better contracts and insurance. Lots of good stuff from this class. Even suggested a very inexpensive and comprehensive technique. hehehehehe
So, I take a $200-$300 class, pay the $200 registration with EPA and buy the expensive vac, buy protective clothing, etc. I've spent good $ to comply with requirements that will further erode my market. Yes, that sounds like higher profit margins. Similar to getting 100% of nothing.
c2500
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At least you are legal and defendable in court...assuming you did lead safe work. The EPA is $300 by the way.
c2500
it is 6 sqft per room.
taken from the epa site:
Minor repair and maintenance activities are activities, including minor heating, ventilation or air conditioning work, electrical work, and plumbing, THAT DISTURB 6 SQUARE FT OR LESS OF PAINTED SURFACE PER ROOM for interior activities or 20 square feet or less of painted surface for exterior activities where none of the work practices prohibited or restricted by ?745.85(a)(3) are used and where the work does not involve window replacement or demolition of painted surface areas.
taken from the epa site:
Minor repair and maintenance activities are activities, including minor heating, ventilation or air conditioning work, electrical work, and plumbing, THAT DISTURB 6 SQUARE FT OR LESS OF PAINTED SURFACE PER ROOM for interior activities or 20 square feet or less of painted surface for exterior activities where none of the work practices prohibited or restricted by ?745.85(a)(3) are used and where the work does not involve window replacement or demolition of painted surface areas.
macmikeman
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Lets see... should I go through all this or resort to my one word solution to the whole deal? Probably I would be the only member who is flexible enough to pull this off if so desired- one word- Tahiti....
c2500
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Edward....
You still have to work lead safe if you cut in an old work box. Assuming of course you don't want some liability floating around out there. Swapping a receptacle would be no big deal. The key is disturbing paint. Dewey Cheatem and Howe are just waiting to take you to the cleaners.
c2500
GUNNING
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Learning curve.
Learning curve.
You need cash damages here. It has to be an amount. Whats an IQ worth? I have yet to figure out my teenagers and I cant blame it on one environmental incident. Although I have tried.
Its not the liability or the compliance that is freaky so much as getting into the practices of working differently. Walking into a gutted old room and being asked to just put in a switch a couple of outlets and a fan and the dry waller will be here Tuesday. I want to turn to the contractor and say stuff it. Its not us when the damage has been done and we turn up late for the party. It makes us culpable by proxy. Here state law says you are only as liable for what you profit on the job.
I think the key here is better contracts, work orders, and documentation. Getting the blame placed and paid for prior to work. Or dummy corporations, CYA proxy subcontractors and plausible deniablity.
BY the by. You can see how old a house is here by looking up online the public records site. A lot of the counties here are accessible via the internet.
Learning curve.
You need cash damages here. It has to be an amount. Whats an IQ worth? I have yet to figure out my teenagers and I cant blame it on one environmental incident. Although I have tried.
Its not the liability or the compliance that is freaky so much as getting into the practices of working differently. Walking into a gutted old room and being asked to just put in a switch a couple of outlets and a fan and the dry waller will be here Tuesday. I want to turn to the contractor and say stuff it. Its not us when the damage has been done and we turn up late for the party. It makes us culpable by proxy. Here state law says you are only as liable for what you profit on the job.
I think the key here is better contracts, work orders, and documentation. Getting the blame placed and paid for prior to work. Or dummy corporations, CYA proxy subcontractors and plausible deniablity.
BY the by. You can see how old a house is here by looking up online the public records site. A lot of the counties here are accessible via the internet.
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