LED light with flexible cord

[dcooper]

Here’s a conversation piece.

I have a 2 lamp LED fixture. It comes pre-wired with a flexible cord.
Light will be hung 20ft in the air off of manufactures chain.
Do I need a plug end for this?

 

[hbiss]

Assuming 20 feet of cord ty-rapped to the chain I would say yes. Otherwise it violates the use of flexible cord because you are using it for building wiring.

Your alternative is to replace the cord with either MC or AC. Then you can connect it directly to a box above.

-Hal

 

[jusme123]

Assuming 20 feet of cord ty-rapped to the chain I would say yes. Otherwise it violates the use of flexible cord because you are using it for building wiring.

Your alternative is to replace the cord with either MC or AC. Then you can connect it directly to a box above.

-Hal

The fixture is prewired from the manufacturer according to OP, how is that any different than chandelier wiring?

 

[suemarkp]

Uses permitted (for cords):
400.7(A)(1) Pendants.
400.7(A)(2) Wiring of luminaires.

400.7(B) Attachment Plugs. Where used as permitted in 400.7(A)(3), (A)(6), and (A)(8), each flexible cord shall be equipped with an attachment plug and shall be energized from a receptacle outlet or cord connector body.

You're not using (A)(3), (A)(6), or (A)(8), so don't see that a plug is required.

 

[hbiss]

The fixture is not a pendent. That would be a fixture supported by the cord itself. It is a cord and plug connected luminaire. See 410.62(C)(1).

-Hal

 

[kwired]

The fixture is not a pendent. That would be a fixture supported by the cord itself. It is a cord and plug connected luminaire. See 410.62(C)(1).

-Hal

But the chain may or may not be a part of the luminaire or an accessory item included in the listing.

 

[PhenixFord]

Just for reference.

At the industrial facility where I work, It's been done both ways. However, the "Plug" method is preferred over the "HW" method because - it just makes life easier down the road.

 

[hbiss]

But the chain may or may not be a part of the luminaire or an accessory item included in the listing.

What difference does it make where the chain came from? As long as the fixture is supported by the chain and not the cord it's not a pendent.

-Hal

 

[suemarkp]

Maybe 410.54(C). Or just ignore the pendant option and use 400.7(A)(2). And as Jusme123 said in post 3, how is this different from a chandelier? I've never seen one chandelier wiring instruction that said to put a plug on the end.

 

[hbiss]

And as Jusme123 said in post 3, how is this different from a chandelier? I've never seen one chandelier wiring instruction that said to put a plug on the end.

A chandelier is designed to be supported through the cord (or chain with wiring) by the box with a supplied canopy and support bracket. Cord runs through the canopy and is spliced in the box.

A cord and plug connected luminaire is supported by a chain that is attached directly to the structure, not by an electrical box. Cord is independent and is not used for support.

-Hal

 

[dcooper]

I don’t see it being required. I see it being permitted in 410.62 (c)

 

[Todd0x1]

I'll throw this out there:

What do the manufacturer's instructions have to say about this?

 

[MPdesign]

Could I interject and ask a similar question?
I have an apartment complex has installed ceiling fans and pendant incandescent light fixtures. Some are hardwired to boxes. Some are plugged in. Some have tried to keep the ground. Some have abandoned the ground wire. Conduit is being used as a ground. Which, if any, are ok by code?
These are kind of funny to review by the way.

 

[don_resqcapt19]

Here’s a conversation piece.

I have a 2 lamp LED fixture. It comes pre-wired with a flexible cord.
Light will be hung 20ft in the air off of manufactures chain.
Do I need a plug end for this?

Most that come with cords are not listed for permanent installation. What product standard has it been listed to?