"look at (3) home run boxes to see if there are pigtailed neutrals"
Like I said in my post, if there are no pigtails in the homerun boxes.
I must be blind, because I do not see that anywhere in your post. What I see is
When I inspect jobs that don't use pigtails, I take a look at the homeruns by the panel
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How many neutrals can you backstab into the back of a plug ?
Two, right ?
maybe. maybe backstab two and wrap two. There is a debate about that going on in another thread.
Our company policy is to not use the backstabs, so we wrap the wires. (unless the device is made to use a compression type screw clamp).
This means we have room to wrap a maximum of two wires. So if there are (3) 14/2's in a box, we pigtail all (3) whites and all (3) blacks.
So if you have a HR box with a 14-3 and the two circuits leave that box and snake around the house, how many Romexs are in the box ?
At least 3, right ? So you must have a pigtail.
I agree.
On the rough, if I see one or more boxes with the following:
1) 3 conductor HRs at the panel
2) a box with two 3 conductor Romexs or one 3 wire and one 2 wire
3) no neutral joints made in that box
then you either have a receptacle violation of 300.13(B) or a missing neutral joint at a switch location.
Either way it's a violation. Something is missing !
And when I write it up as a 300.13(B) violation, the contractor needs to come back and add whatever is missing.
We have a kitchen in a recent rough that has, among others, (3) 14/3 homeruns.
(1) is for the dishwasher/disposal; (1) is for the wine chiller/beverage center; (1) is for the warming drawers. The neutrals are pigtailed in the homerun boxes.
In the livingroom, there are (7) split-wired receptacles on one 14/2 home run. Some of these boxes have (2) 14/3 wires in them and they do not need to have the whites pigtailed.
According to your words, if I don't have a guy there, and you see 3-wire homeruns hanging at the panel, you are not going to pass the job, because we typically do not pigtail all of our boxes.
That is outrageous.
I stand by my statements:
To not approve a job because of your lack of time, is outrageous!
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It is NOT my job to hold your hand and lead you around to show you that I am in compliance.
If you do work that I inspect, you don't have to hold my hand. You just have to do it right.
David
I guarantee that if my company does it, it will be done right, but you need to look at it anyway.
In case you forgot, here's your statement:
When I inspect jobs that don't use pigtails, I take a look at the homeruns by the panel. On the rough, if I see any 3 wire HRs and noone from the electrical contractor is on site, I won't approve the job. It's the responsibility of the contractor to prove that there are no neutral pigtails missing from the shared neutral circuits. I don't have the time to track thru every box in every circuit in the whole job. If the contractor wants to skip using pigtails, it's his responsibility to show that he complies with 300.13(B).
