Letting another contractor use license

Ill offer a potential different take. Many times its just honest good electricians who want to do a job somewhere they don't have license and the stupid license board there has a ridiculous blanket policy of not accepting another license or experience. Its practically criminal, so i would have no trouble doing this if it suited me. Licensing is mostly just a money grab and political and protectionist crap anyway.
 
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If it's your license aren't you exposing your insurance carrier (and yourself) to risk? You are in effect providing them with liability insurance. Who's insurance carrier is going to issue the Accord Certificate to the customer?

Just curious, do any of you ever have to fill out AIA Forms G702 and G703? How about bonding like bid and performance? Going to bid openings. writing protest letters to get a competitor's bid thrown out? All that "fun" stuff
 
Ill offer a potential different take. Many times its just honest good electricians who want to do a job somewhere they don't have license and the stupid license board there has a ridiculous blanket policy of not accepting another license or experience. Its practically criminal, so i would have no trouble doing this if it suited me. Licensing is mostly just a money grab and political and protectionist crap anyway.
My dukes of hazard state Pa is top.of the list for money grabbing by not having a state electrical license..When my chief electrician father had to take the City of Philadelphia exam for an electrical license back in 1964 they told him politicians in Harrisburg were working in it. About ten years ago the IAEI Philly chapter sent several inspectors & electricians to Harrisburg and a few politicians said they would would look into a state license. Worst part some hick townships do not recognise any other license so make you pay to take a test.Can easily spend over $700 a year renewing a license in surrounding areas that you might not even use some years.To each his own but I would never pull a permit or allow any electrical contractors to use my license. Life time liability issue. I did all sorts of commercial work but always turned down wiring in ground swimming pools even though I had an ample amount of insurance.
 
My dukes of hazard state Pa is top.of the list for money grabbing by not having a state electrical license..When my chief electrician father had to take the City of Philadelphia exam for an electrical license back in 1964 they told him politicians in Harrisburg were working in it. About ten years ago the IAEI Philly chapter sent several inspectors & electricians to Harrisburg and a few politicians said they would would look into a state license. Worst part some hick townships do not recognise any other license so make you pay to take a test.Can easily spend over $700 a year renewing a license in surrounding areas that you might not even use some years.To each his own but I would never pull a permit or allow any electrical contractors to use my license. Life time liability issue. I did all sorts of commercial work but always turned down wiring in ground swimming pools even though I had an ample amount of insurance.
Im doing a job in Indiana, and the city doesnt even accept the county license, LOL
 
Ill offer a potential different take. Many times its just honest good electricians who want to do a job somewhere they don't have license and the stupid license board there has a ridiculous blanket policy of not accepting another license or experience. Its practically criminal, so i would have no trouble doing this if it suited me. Licensing is mostly just a money grab and political and protectionist crap anyway.
I know of several jurisdictions that do that.
 
Im doing a job in Indiana, and the city doesnt even accept the county license, LOL
I have an Evansville Indiana masters license, it’s supposed to work anywhere in Indiana, but like my Michigan journeyman’s, probably different localities require their own for protectionist purposes. I had to take the Lansing Michigan exam because they didn’t accept the state license.
 
If it's your license aren't you exposing your insurance carrier (and yourself) to risk? You are in effect providing them with liability insurance. Who's insurance carrier is going to issue the Accord Certificate to the customer?

Just curious, do any of you ever have to fill out AIA Forms G702 and G703? How about bonding like bid and performance? Going to bid openings. writing protest letters to get a competitor's bid thrown out? All that "fun" stuff
Everything you/we do is a risk.
 
Just curious, do any of you ever have to fill out AIA Forms G702 and G703? How about bonding like bid and performance? Going to bid openings. writing protest letters to get a competitor's bid thrown out? All that "fun" stuff
Yes to all except writing a protest letter. There was also MBE forms and sitting in the bid opening parking lot to literally the last 5 minutes to receive the last large item prices to fill in the blanks, then run in to get your bid received before the deadline.
 
I have an Evansville Indiana masters license, it’s supposed to work anywhere in Indiana, but like my Michigan journeyman’s, probably different localities require their own for protectionist purposes. I had to take the Lansing Michigan exam because they didn’t accept the state license.
For crown point you have to take the test. Doesnt matter if you are the pope and have a lake county license.
 
Massachusetts is way overregulated but at least we have a statewide license that is accepted everywhere in the state. And statewide code that inspectors are not "supposed" to make up their own rules.

And if the inspector is off the rails you can go to the state board to hold them accountable (though seldom done).

CT used to have city and county licenses but have been statewide for years.

Upstate NY is like the WW west and the quality of the work is suspect at best from what I have see,

RI is pretty strict from what I here and is statewide.

At one time a MA license was accepted in VT, NH and ME but no longer. All those states have their own statewide licenses now.

In this day and age I don't understand any state with no licensing or city or county licenses. It make no sense and restricts business and is definitely just a money grab.

My journeyman renewal in MA every 3 years is around $80 for 3 years which I think quite reasonable. Code updates are every 3 years and may run about $300.

Unfortunately, CT renews every year which is ridiculous at about $150 and requires code updates every year so I dropped mine when I retired. I also had VT which renewed every 3 years and accepted MA code updates and was/1s reciprocal with MA. I got my VT license with no test needed,
 
If it's your license aren't you exposing your insurance carrier (and yourself) to risk? You are in effect providing them with liability insurance. Who's insurance carrier is going to issue the Accord Certificate to the customer?

Just curious, do any of you ever have to fill out AIA Forms G702 and G703? How about bonding like bid and performance? Going to bid openings. writing protest letters to get a competitor's bid thrown out? All that "fun" stuff

Haven’t signed an AIA contract yet, and it’s questionable if I would. I haven’t seen one, but heard plenty of horror stories about them.

I’ve dived head first into the shallow end of the PW pool this year, 😳, and it’s been an experience for sure. The admin work to be the prime contractor is unbelievable. I can’t physically swing it, not enough hours in a day for a small shop like mine. I’m only prime on one project, and that is as an electrical contractor, not a general. It’s a generator for medical clinic.

I’m sub on several other PW jobs, and the paperwork is still pretty deep even for a sub. I do a lot of job walks, even as a sub, but I skip the bid openings generally. Don’t have time, and if I’m a listed sub, they’ll tell me.

Haven’t protested, but I had one protest me. That was funny.

I might want to start going to some bid openings though. I found out from a GC that I am subbing for, that on a different project that he listed me on, the winning GC also listed me. But when I heard nothing from him for weeks, I called him up and asked him what’s up. Told me he was using someone else. I believe the guy is using doesn’t even have a license, let alone DIR registration, insurance, etc. I notified the awarding agency. 😗😗
We’ll see what happens.

Glad the GC told me I was listed, or I never would have k own. And apparently the “electrician” he is using is messing up some serious stuff.
 
Haven’t signed an AIA contract yet, and it’s questionable if I would. I haven’t seen one, but heard plenty of horror stories about them.

I’ve dived head first into the shallow end of the PW pool this year, 😳, and it’s been an experience for sure. The admin work to be the prime contractor is unbelievable. I can’t physically swing it, not enough hours in a day for a small shop like mine. I’m only prime on one project, and that is as an electrical contractor, not a general. It’s a generator for medical clinic.

I’m sub on several other PW jobs, and the paperwork is still pretty deep even for a sub. I do a lot of job walks, even as a sub, but I skip the bid openings generally. Don’t have time, and if I’m a listed sub, they’ll tell me.

Haven’t protested, but I had one protest me. That was funny.

I might want to start going to some bid openings though. I found out from a GC that I am subbing for, that on a different project that he listed me on, the winning GC also listed me. But when I heard nothing from him for weeks, I called him up and asked him what’s up. Told me he was using someone else. I believe the guy is using doesn’t even have a license, let alone DIR registration, insurance, etc. I notified the awarding agency. 😗😗
We’ll see what happens.

Glad the GC told me I was listed, or I never would have k own. And apparently the “electrician” he is using is messing up some serious stuff.
I've already gone to bid openings where the low bidder arrived late and they delayed the deadline. I got his bid thrown out, but because I found a bigger flaw. I started to protest about the delayed deadline, and I was in city hall, and a lady got in the elevator with me, and told me to look into his bonding. His bid bond was a forged document.

Those AIA G702 and G703 schedules for payment are stressful. One mistake and the municipal board you are dealing with can reject it. You can resubmit a corrected version, but the boards typically only meet once a month. Now you got to have deep pockets to carry on work including materials for another 30 days
 
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