Hi everyone,
A customer wants to install low voltage landscaping lights around a fountain. Equipment is all UL1838 listed.
NEC 411 says I can't put anything nearer tan 10 ft of a Pool, SPA and Fountain unless allowed by NEC 680.
NEC 680-I doesn't says anything about lighting.
NEC 680-II is about pools, and is very detailed on what can/can't be done near a pool, how closer could I get with a lighting installation, and whatever.
NEC 680-V is about fountains, and only talks about submersible lights inside the fountain. Does not says anything about lights outside. I didn't found any text telling that I can?t do it, nor any text that I can.
Also, 680-V only states that submersible lights shall have GFCI, be less than 150 V, and be installed in chapter 3 raceways, all of which I would do.
Given the above conditions, I am tempted to believe that I can do it. (Sometimes NEC is SO terrible confusing!!!
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Finally, tried searching the UL white book and found only references to submersible lights for fountains, and nothing about lights outside the fountain.
So what do you all think, can I or can I not install Low Voltage landscape lamps less than 10 ft of a Fountain? What would be your NEC interpretation on the subject? Has anyone had an AHJ explain 680-V in simple terms?
Are there UL or other standards that apply to this installation?
Alberto
A customer wants to install low voltage landscaping lights around a fountain. Equipment is all UL1838 listed.
NEC 411 says I can't put anything nearer tan 10 ft of a Pool, SPA and Fountain unless allowed by NEC 680.
NEC 680-I doesn't says anything about lighting.
NEC 680-II is about pools, and is very detailed on what can/can't be done near a pool, how closer could I get with a lighting installation, and whatever.
NEC 680-V is about fountains, and only talks about submersible lights inside the fountain. Does not says anything about lights outside. I didn't found any text telling that I can?t do it, nor any text that I can.
Also, 680-V only states that submersible lights shall have GFCI, be less than 150 V, and be installed in chapter 3 raceways, all of which I would do.
Given the above conditions, I am tempted to believe that I can do it. (Sometimes NEC is SO terrible confusing!!!
)Finally, tried searching the UL white book and found only references to submersible lights for fountains, and nothing about lights outside the fountain.
So what do you all think, can I or can I not install Low Voltage landscape lamps less than 10 ft of a Fountain? What would be your NEC interpretation on the subject? Has anyone had an AHJ explain 680-V in simple terms?
Are there UL or other standards that apply to this installation?
Alberto