Locating conduit bodies under exterior decking and 314.29

[gadfly56]

For this access panel the two screws have to be removed in order to drop the panel, who considers this rendering items above it inaccessible?

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Not this guy.

 

[jap]

For this access panel the two screws have to be removed in order to drop the panel, who considers this rendering items above it inaccessible?

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Me, cause I wouldn't fit through the hole.

JAP>

 

[winnie]

I agree.

So as far as Larry's j-box hidden behind the cabinet all we really need is a note on the box of Wheaties that says "Hidden j-box located in wall behind this cabinet, and, a cold beer in the fridge for when you finally locate it".

JAP>

I'd put a self chilling beer can in the wall next to the j-box

 

[winnie]

For this access panel the two screws have to be removed in order to drop the panel, who considers this rendering items above it inaccessible?

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IMHO that is clearly an access panel and the items above are thereby accessible. Fine per electrical code.

But those look like drywall screws and from experience after a few uses the trim will be split or the screw heads will have gone all the way through. I have such access panels in my house and I'd really want better attachment hardware....

-Jon

 

[Hitchum]

Hey all. I just sat down with three beers and a box of Wheaties and read this through a couple times

So I think the most clear cut approach is to request an access panel in the deck over the one required J-box, and install unbroken conduit runs from there. It will involve a little more fab work but thems the breaks.

Thanks for all the input!

 

[LarryFine]

Hey all. I just sat down with three beers and a box of Wheaties and read this through a couple times

"Snap, crackle, burp!"

 

[jap]

Hey all. I just sat down with three beers and a box of Wheaties and read this through a couple times

You must have went on a service call at that house Larry worked on,,,what was it like getting that cabinet off the wall?? LOL.

Jap>

 

[Hitchum]

@winnie randomly found out they do actually make a conduit "T piece" like the one you were thinking of ... only problem is they are $55 bucks a pop. But hey at least they're "explosion proof", whatever that means! See ET288 below...

Cooper Crouse-Hinds ET218 :: Elbow, Type: Tee, Female, (3) Hubs: (2) 1/2" & (1) 3/4", Explosion-Proof, Iron Alloy :: Rexel USA

Elbow, Type: Tee, Female, (3) Hubs: (2) 1/2 Inch & (1) 3/4 Inch, Explosion-Proof, Iron Alloy, Cat #: ET218, Mfr: Cooper Crouse-Hinds

www.rexelusa.com

 

[jap]

@winnie randomly found out they do actually make a conduit "T piece" like the one you were thinking of ... only problem is they are $55 bucks a pop. But hey at least they're "explosion proof", whatever that means! See ET288 below...

Cooper Crouse-Hinds ET218 :: Elbow, Type: Tee, Female, (3) Hubs: (2) 1/2" & (1) 3/4", Explosion-Proof, Iron Alloy :: Rexel USA

Elbow, Type: Tee, Female, (3) Hubs: (2) 1/2 Inch & (1) 3/4 Inch, Explosion-Proof, Iron Alloy, Cat #: ET218, Mfr: Cooper Crouse-Hinds

www.rexelusa.com

Means rated for use in hazardous locations.

Jap,>

 

[jmellc]

Interesting question. Raising a screwed-down deck board can be compared to removing a section of drywall that will not be mudded. Is that removing or damaging closed-in by the structure or finish?

I once placed a J-box behind an upper kitchen cabinet to repair a damaged NM cable. I only had to remove six screws to lower the cabinet: two in the studs, two into each neighboring cabinet.

No one would ever think to take the cabinet down to look for a hidden box. Better to cut a box into a corner of the cabinet and run the wiring to it. Some chance of being found.

 

[letgomywago]

No one would ever think to take the cabinet down to look for a hidden box. Better to cut a box into a corner of the cabinet and run the wiring to it. Some chance of being found.

Or back of it not behind it. I do this when someone does plugmould kitchens is I run to junction boxes behind the stove, sink, behind the fridge, and last my choice is in the back of a cabinet without drawers.

 

[jmellc]

Or back of it not behind it. I do this when someone does plugmould kitchens is I run to junction boxes behind the stove, sink, behind the fridge, and last my choice is in the back of a cabinet without drawers.

Oh yea, I see.