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cal1947 said:why you say outrageously high, it's a fair wage
Because he never feels those of us in the trade should make a living wage, we are no more then trained monkeys.
cal1947 said:why you say outrageously high, it's a fair wage
iwire said:Because he never feels those of us in the trade should make a living wage, we are no more then trained monkeys.
And the low-baller is probably saying "I could have asked for how much more?!"electricmanscott said:I still don't get it. Three other guys are probably wondering about the two lowballers. They probably don't get how you guys came up with your price just as you are saying about lowballer #1.
That was uncalled for.iwire said:Because he never feels those of us in the trade should make a living wage, we are no more then trained monkeys.
Maybe the low baller likes hot dogs and trailers! It could be that he really has lower overhead, or maybe he plans on having some low wage positions* for his people. I think you only need one journeyman on a job, and they don't have to show up.CopperTone said:I could eat steak and lobster for my 72k price for that job, and pay a few months mortgage on my cape house. I wasn't lowballing - just a tight bid. I also can tell you that the companies that were 35% over my bid - over the 100k mark - will never get the work - ever - not today , maybe 3-4 years ago, and maybe in 1-2 years from now. But not today. (when it turns - my bids will go up too). I monitor and track public bids in my area, I know what guys are bidding, who is not bidding , and for how much.
hate the game - not the player
I agree! However, if you're trying to cut costs, you can have 5 journeymen paid as broompushers...if they'll go for it. In the famine times, you could pretty easily get people to work for less, if the other option is unemployment, I hear.ohm said:It takes two journeymen to correct the mistakes of five "broompushers"
DanZ said:I agree! However, if you're trying to cut costs, you can have 5 journeymen paid as broompushers...if they'll go for it. In the famine times, you could pretty easily get people to work for less, if the other option is unemployment, I hear.
DanZ said:As the old saying goes, desperate times call for desperate measures!
He could also be planning on a whole lot of change orders...
That's another one that always got me. I would think that would be a selling point for a higher bid, "Well, I have these items that were in this note, or are needed for this to work, and these other guys don't so they're either trying to cheat you or they the just don't pay attention..."ohm said:Right again. I worked for a huge company and we bid a couple of jobs praying for change orders, just to break even. Sometimes rather than tip off the GC that the specs. did not include a code required item they kept quiet until they got the job, then put in a change order.
DanZ said:That's another one that always got me. I would think that would be a selling point for a higher bid, "Well, I have these items that were in this note, or are needed for this to work, and these other guys don't so they're either trying to cheat you or they the just don't pay attention..."
I'm glad I'm not in sales... :roll: