No, I don't get that at all. There are systems out there that will allow certain types of wire to be concealed that are not the wiring systems noted in Chapter 3-- art. 411.3. Generally if the wiring is concealed then it must follow the wiring methods of chapter 3-- art. 411.4(A). If the wiring is exposed, as on top or under upper cabinets, then no JB is required and the wiring methods don't need to be chapter 3.Thanks Dennis. I having been reading 411 and 725. 411.5 D (3) if the wiring is under the cabinets then they need to be in a raceway or box, correct ?