luminaire outlet?

[mltech]

That's how I see it!

That's how I see it!

"410.30(C) Electric-Discharge Luminaires (Fixtures).
(1) Cord Connected Installation. A listed luminaire (fixture) or a listed assembly shall be permitted to be cord connected if the following conditions apply: "

They key word here is SHALL BE PERMITTED.It is simply permitted.Nothing says its not permitted to connect the cord directly to the box.Use a strain relief cap with 1/2 threads and a locknut.

Thanks for all the input.
Jim, this is exactly how I percieved it. Nothing says I can't do it.
We have installed loading dock lights that come with a yellow type SO cord with no plug and have installed them directly into a 1900 j-box. I was following the same installation procedures. Flexible cord with romex type connector into the fixture and then same set up into the supply box. All circuits are pigtailed so removing a fixture would not open the circuit. Of Course we would not work it live anyway.
I will see what kind of stance I can put up against the inspector. And will let you know.
Thanks again.
Mike

 

[infinity]

Thanks for all the input.
Jim, this is exactly how I percieved it. Nothing says I can't do it.
We have installed loading dock lights that come with a yellow type SO cord with no plug and have installed them directly into a 1900 j-box. I was following the same installation procedures. Flexible cord with romex type connector into the fixture and then same set up into the supply box. All circuits are pigtailed so removing a fixture would not open the circuit. Of Course we would not work it live anyway.
I will see what kind of stance I can put up against the inspector. And will let you know.
Thanks again.
Mike

If Jim agrees with you and than I would say that you're both incorrect. A strain relief on the cord to an HID fixture is not the same as "a luminaire (fixture) assembly with a strain relief and canopy". The inspector is correct, your installation requires the cord and plug connection. Simply using a strain relief to enter the cord into the box does not satisfy the requirement of 410.30(C)(1)(2)c.

 

[Jim W in Tampa]

If Jim agrees with you and than I would say that you're both incorrect. A strain relief on the cord to an HID fixture is not the same as "a luminaire (fixture) assembly with a strain relief and canopy". The inspector is correct, your installation requires the cord and plug connection. Simply using a strain relief to enter the cord into the box does not satisfy the requirement of 410.30(C)(1)(2)c.

Then we have thousands of them hanging right now in Tampa that need corrected.We do not use romex connectors but they are directly connected by the factory installed cords.Where do you see a problem with this ?As Bob pointed out at 20 feet they are safe from damage.How does a plug and receptacle make this any safer ?

 

[iwire]

How does a plug and receptacle make this any safer ?

I don't see that anyone said they are safer one way or the other.

Only that in this application the NEC requires a cord and plug.

 

[infinity]

I don't see that anyone said they are safer one way or the other.

Only that in this application the NEC requires a cord and plug.

This is my feeling too. It's not a matter of safety it's a matter of properly applying the code. IMO the fixture will fail long before the cord.

 

[iwire]

IMO the fixture will fail long before the cord.

I would say that is a very safe bet and a good point as well.