Manual transfer switches

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Getting lots of calls to install MTS's due to recent ice storms. Most jobs are after the building is complete. I have been buying Cutler-Hammer switches with no OCP. Is it OK to install a switch between the meter and the main service disconnect? I am getting conflicting answers. The label on the switch reads "Suitable for use as service equipment". A CH rep told me they do not make a MTS w/o OCP that is service rated. :confused: If it is OK, what about nuetral bonding at the existing main disconnect?
 
So the switch you have is from CH, has no overcurrent protective device and is labels as suitable for service entrance? Then what is the CH rep talking about?

Typically a service rated MTS that I've seen has overcurrent protection.
 
The service rated MTS can be installed after the meter and before the existing panel.

The MTS will become the service disconnecting means and that means the existing panel will have to have the neutral isolated like any sub panel.

One more thing is that the overcurrent protection must be located "immediately adjacent thereto" of the service disconnecting means. See 230.91
 
Thanks for the reference 230.91. I was looking for that one before I posted the question and couldn't lay my eyes on it.
 
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The meter is outside and the existing main breaker panel is inside nearest the point of entrance. If I install the MTS outside beside the meter does that still satisfy 230.91?
 
If the MTS is not listed as suitable for use as service equipment, it may not be used on the supply side of the existing service panel. If it is listed as suitable for use as service equipment and it is installed, it is my opinion that the grounded conductor should be bonded to the MTS enclosure, and to the enclosure, equipment grounding conductors and grounding electrode system at the existing service panel. It is my opinion that even with the addition of the MTS, the existing service panel is still service equipment because it contains the first means of overcurrent protection.
 
geezer said:
It is my opinion that even with the addition of the MTS, the existing service panel is still service equipment because it contains the first means of overcurrent protection.

Nope. The transfer switch is the disconnect, and that is where the main bonding jumper must be located. See 230.91: Overcurrent Protection Location. The service overcurrent device shall be an integral part of the service disconnecting means or shall be located immediately adjacent thereto.

This says the service disconnect is the switch, not the overcurrent. The FIRST disconnecting means is the main disconnect.

I also agree that having the panel on the opposite side of the wall as the switch is not immediately adjacent. Adjacent implies side-by-side to me.
 
I beleive that is a requirement in order to get the Suitable for use as Service Equipment labeling.
 
SiddMartin said:
Wouldn't the MTS have to have an "OFF" position?

Yes, the OP stated it was service rated.

If it is service rated it will have an externally operable off position for both sources of power.
 
When reading labels that are located on the inside of enclosures, and the label states "suitable as service equipment", there may be more to the label. Such as "suitable for service equipment" when used with part xxx.
The equipment may have a parts list that would be referred to, so that one would know what to change in the equipment to make it suitable as service equipment.

I would like to see a model number of the said equipment.
 
From the 2007 white book

TRANSFER SWITCHES (WPTZ)

This category covers automatic and nonautomatic transfer switches,
including associated control devices, with maximum ratings of 600 V ac and
transfer equipment over 600 V ac but not more than 38 kV.

Transfer switches rated 600 V and less intended for use as service equipment
are marked ??SUITABLE FOR USE AS SERVICE EQUIPMENT.?? Transfer switches rated over 600 V intended for use as service equipment may be
marked ??SUITABLE FOR USE AS SERVICE EQUIPMENT.??

Transfer switches are required to be designed so that the load cannot
remain simultaneously disconnected from both the normal and alternative
sources when either or both sources are available, except that transfer
switches marked ??SUITABLE FOR USE AS SERVICE EQUIPMENT?? are
provided with externally accessible means to independently disconnect both
the normal and alternate sources.


Automatic transfer switches transfer a common load from a normal supply
to an alternate supply in the event of failure of the normal supply, and
automatically return the load to the normal supply when the normal supply
is reestablished.

Additional sensing devices that may initiate or delay transfer have been
investigated in accordance with the manufacturer?s marked operating values.
Automatic transfer switches may have a switching contact to initiate the
starting of an engine generator set.

Transfer switches have been investigated for load switching and inrush
capability and for a number of cycles of operation based on their intended
use which, in the case of an automatic transfer switch, is expected to
include scheduled test operations switching full load.

Listed transfer switches rated 600 V or less, without enclosures, are
intended for use as part of other equipment or where open type devices are
acceptable. These devices have the Listing Mark applied to the transfer
switch panel. When the Listing Mark is applied to the enclosure of an
enclosed transfer switch or bypass switch, it indicates the Listing of the
complete enclosed assembly.

Transfer equipment rated over 600 V is investigated only as a completely
enclosed assembly.

Transfer switches without integral overcurrent protective devices are suitable
for continuous use at 100% of rated current. Transfer switches incorporating
integral overcurrent devices are suitable for continuous use at 100%
of rated current unless restricted to use at 80% of rated current, as indicated
by the marking ??CONTINUOUS LOAD CURRENT NOT TO EXCEED 80
PERCENT OF SWITCH RATING?? on the switch.
Transfer switches are rated in amps and are generally considered to be suitable for total system transfer, which includes control of motors, electricdischarge lamps, electric-heating loads, and tungsten-filament lamps within
the amp rating marked on the nameplate.


Unless marked otherwise, transfer switches rated 600 V or less, and rated
100 A or less are suitable for use on circuits having available fault currents
not greater than 5000 A rms symmetrical. Transfer switches rated 600 V or
less, and more than 100 A are suitable for use on circuits having an available
fault current of 10,000 A rms symmetrical or 20 times the transfer switch rating, whichever is greater. Transfer equipment rated over 600 V is
suitable for use on circuits having available fault currents not exceeding the
rating marked on the equipment.

Transfer switches rated 600 V or less that are marked with a short-circuit
rating without reference to an overcurrent device by manufacturer and catalog number have been tested for a minimum of three electrical cycles and
are intended for use with a Listed molded-case circuit breaker without an
adjustable short-time function.

Transfer switches rated 600 V or less, and having manual operators accessible
only by opening the enclosure are not intended to be manually operated
under load.

Some transfer switches may be provided with ground-fault protection for
services or major feeders. The circuit(s) so protected are identified by a
marking, such as on a wiring diagram.

Transfer switches without integral overcurrent protection are marked to
indicate the maximum rating of overcurrent protection to be provided ahead
of the transfer switch.


These transfer switches are intended for use with copper conductors
unless marked to indicate which terminals are suitable for use with aluminum conductors. Such marking is independent of any marking on terminal
connectors and is indicated on a wiring diagram or other readily visible
location.

Unless the device rated 600 V and less is marked otherwise, the wiring
space and terminations are based on 60?C wire for switches rated 100 A or
less, and 75?C for switches rated more than 100 A.

Unless transfer equipment rated over 600 V is marked otherwise, the wiring
space and terminations are based on the use of Type MV90 conductors.
The ampacity of Type MV90 conductors is specified in Tables 310.75 and
310.76 of ANSI/NFPA 70, ??National Electrical Code.??

Notice this part.

Transfer switches without integral overcurrent protection are marked
indicate the maximum rating of overcurrent protection to be provided ahead
of the transfer switch.

What kind of overcurrent device can I provide on the supply side of service rated transfer switch that will not end up becoming the service disconnecting means?
 
" Nope. The transfer switch is the disconnect, and that is where the main bonding jumper must be located. See 230.91: Overcurrent Protection Location. The service overcurrent device shall be an integral part of the service disconnecting means or shall be located immediately adjacent thereto.

This says the service disconnect is the switch, not the overcurrent. The FIRST disconnecting means is the main disconnect."


I read 230.91 before my post. I understand what you are saying. I still think that the neutral bonding should be done at the MTS and at the enclosure containing the first means of overcurrent protection.

By the way, how do you do the quote thing? I used to know, but have since forgotten.
 
Bob,

I posted my note before reading your last post containing the white book information. Upon reading that information, it would seem that overcurrent protection must be at or before the transfer switch. If that is the case, then correct installations of MTS's would comply with my opinion on neutral conductor bonding.
 
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iwire said:
What kind of overcurrent device can I provide on the supply side of service rated transfer switch that will not end up becoming the service disconnecting means?

That's a good question. Wouldn't seem to apply if the switch is service rated. I don't recall seeing that type of labeling inside my service rated MTS with no integral overcurrent protection.

Geezer, the quote botton is in the lower right hand corner of each posting. Press it to quote the whole thing and then cut out that parts you don't want.

Here is WA where they seem to read everything very strictly (even when it doesn't make sense), the MTS is where you put the main bonding jumper. You then have to run 4 wires from the MTS to the panel and keep the neutrals and grounds separate.
 
Transfer switches without integral overcurrent protection are marked to
indicate the maximum rating of overcurrent protection to be provided ahead
of the transfer switch.

This quote would coincide with article 230.94

230.94 Relative Location of Overcurrent Device and Other Service Equipment
The overcurrent device shall protect all circuits and devices.
Exception No. 1: The service switch shall be permitted on the supply side.

IMO the exception would not include a "transfer switch" as a service switch.
 
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