Meter/main breaker combo units

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Come on Don, I have to vehemently disagree with you here. Sure there is always another way, but no i dont find cobbing up 6 stand alone meters nippled to disconnects to be an acceptable alternative. Same thing could be said of the line side connector issue, "there is another way" - no installing a bussed gutter or some other absurd way to make a tap for a little solar system is not a valid alternative in my opinion.

I dont see how you could disallow the installation if the word was changed to "must" unless you had a local amendment changing or not adopting 94.7



There is nothing in there speaking of alternatives and if they exist.
Because the code does not require a new product that does not exist. I am not going to write a 90.4 special permission just because the contractor does not like the currently available code compliant options.
 
Because the code does not require a new product that does not exist. I am not going to write a 90.4 special permission just because the contractor does not like the currently available code compliant options.
I guess we will have to agree to disagree, I do not find your reading of that section correct. You would not have a choice and I would appeal your decision.
 
Yea so...
So whats been everyones work around?
-custom build?
-disco before outdated meter combo?
-see if AHJ is enforcing ?
 
Yea so...
So whats been everyones work around?
-custom build?
-disco before outdated meter combo?
-see if AHJ is enforcing ?
It has not come up for me in NY as they are still on 2017. One area I worked was on 2020 and I did do a 2 meter service there, but they delayed the implementation - but I still used two separate single meter mains each with its own riser anyway due to equipment availability.

I think equipment is available now, but if not I would ask for a 90.4 exemption.
 
It has not come up for me in NY as they are still on 2017. One area I worked was on 2020 and I did do a 2 meter service there, but they delayed the implementation - but I still used two separate single meter mains each with its own riser anyway due to equipment availability.

I think equipment is available now, but if not I would ask for a 90.4 exemption.
From what I'm told It sounds like NY is going to jump straight into the 23 code so this will be coming.
It all sounds like the code in 230.71 is moving toward what (my understanding) the Canadian Code has in place for service entry. What do they have in place for the multiple entry panels?

Haven't seen anything that remotely comes in line with the code section for a 3-6 meter/disconnect in the states.

I see an issue coming, Got a 5 unit complex that this could be an issue if the AHJ says NO. Wall space limited related to proximity to windows and doors, and wouldn't even be able to provide separate enclosure and meters in an over/under configuration and maintain clearances, even the 6 meter/disconnect enclosure the space would be tight.
 
Always was told these made the installation compliant. This no longer true?
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Not where there is more than one service disconnect in a common enclosure. The product standard for meter centers was changed in response to the NEC changes. That product standard now says that each service disconnect must be in its own compartment and goes on to define a compartment as an enclosure that meets the requirements of UL 50. UL 50 is the product standard for junction and pull boxes.
The insulating protectors are still required at each service disconnect, even where they are in separate compartments.
 
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