Meter utilized as disconnect

electrofelon said:
I know you have some municipal POCOs there where I could see them having the legal authority to dish out fines, but for private POCOs they can threaten all they want but I don't think they have any authority to issue fines, unless it's specifically in the tariff.
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We don’t need authority to issue fines.
We just pull the meter and leave you in the dark a couple of days
 
I've on occasion pulled meter but with permission. Usually because they can't get a crew out and there was an urgent need, they don't fuss, but they also need to know you and that you are qualified. Some of the northern areas that I work in they give me a standing okie dokie to pull the meter to do work or check system issue and a handful of seal tags for when I'm done and then call them to inform them what was done and when they get a chance they will come out and put one of their numbered tags.
 
electrofelon said:
In most areas that's all tightly regulated and power companies can't do that
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😂😂
I like you and don’t even know you..

But if you can break the rules why can’t we?


For the electricians we know, I’ll give them some seals. Let them do it right and don’t bother us with it.

The electrician/POCO world work like all other industries.
It’s all in who you know.
 
Hv&Lv said:
😂😂
I like you and don’t even know you..

But if you can break the rules why can’t we?


For the electricians we know, I’ll give them some seals. Let them do it right and don’t bother us with it.

The electrician/POCO world work like all other industries.
It’s all in who you know.
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Exactly. They knew us, and we knew them. We both had phone numbers that worked.
 
ggunn said:
How would you know about all the rules in "most places"? Just within a couple hundred miles from here there are lots of different POCO rules.
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There's some standards that tend to be relatively consistent about utilities, or that you can generally expect a utility to have, that you will notice after you've seen enough examples.

As I understand, Texas has a lot more idiosyncrasies than the rest of the mainland US, from what I've seen in your posts. Maybe part of it has to do with most of Texas being an electrical "island", instead of part of the two main electrical grids of the 48 states.
 
Carultch said:
There's some standards that tend to be relatively consistent about utilities, or that you can generally expect a utility to have, that you will notice after you've seen enough examples.

As I understand, Texas has a lot more idiosyncrasies than the rest of the mainland US, from what I've seen in your posts. Maybe part of it has to do with most of Texas being an electrical "island", instead of part of the two main electrical grids of the 48 states.
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My point is that I believe that "most" of us in here (the irony of that statement does not escape me) don't deal with enough different jurisdictions to be able to state sweeping generalizations about how most of them operate. BTW, not all the AHJs I have dealt with have been in Texas.
 
ggunn said:
How would you know about all the rules in "most places"? Just within a couple hundred miles from here there are lots of different POCO rules.
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Yes I'm just making an educated guess. I am pretty sure I am correct that the vast majority of power companies are tightly regulated as to the fees they can charge and there are specific procedures for disconnecting power to a building. In other words they can't just willy-nilly charge a fine or disconnect power as a punitive measure for cutting a seal or not following their procedures. Anybody is welcome to do an analysis of the tariffs of all the power companies and provide me a detailed analysis with charts and graphs and if it proves I am wrong I will certainly admit it 😉.
 
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