Monday Photos (Spot the Violations)

[480sparky]

Took these last week at a service call. Promptly misplaced the memory card, and just found it.

 

[kjless]

well the exposed live parts may be a problem. and is that duplex receptacle tapped off that disconnect?

 

[480sparky]

...... and is that duplex receptacle tapped off that disconnect?

No. It's just placed below it.

 

[iaov]

Exposed parts,recept tapped of dryer disconect, & does that dryer plug have a neutral??

 

[480sparky]

Exposed parts,recept tapped of dryer disconect, & does that dryer plug have a neutral??

It's actually is a mechanic's shop, for a 240v Hotsy.

 

[iaov]

Whats a Hotsy??

 

[steelersman]

Exposed parts,recept tapped of dryer disconect, & does that dryer plug have a neutral??

doesn't have to have a neutral as it's plain to see that it is so old that it wasn't required to have a neutral at the date of original install.

 

[bamawildcat]

Whats a Hotsy??

http://www.hotsy.com/pressure-washers.aspx


Hot water pressure washer.

 

[Karl H]

406.4 (c)? 2008 nec

 

[480sparky]

406.4 (c)? 2008 nec

Wasn't wired to the '08. More likely the '75 or so.

 

[aftershock]

doesn't have to have a neutral as it's plain to see that it is so old that it wasn't required to have a neutral at the date of original install.

From my understanding a dryer recep did not always have to have a ground. It always had to have a neutral to run the motor.
Ofcourse I could be wrong, but that is my understanding.

 

[B4T]

From my understanding a dryer recep did not always have to have a ground. It always had to have a neutral to run the motor.
Ofcourse I could be wrong, but that is my understanding.

that is correct.. there was a strap connecting the frame to neutral lug.

 

[Karl H]

It's a 10-50R with a 10-20R cord cap. That's why the cover is removed.
Man, That's all I've got right now,Without a few questions.

 

[steelersman]

From my understanding a dryer recep did not always have to have a ground. It always had to have a neutral to run the motor.
Ofcourse I could be wrong, but that is my understanding.

so you're telling me that you think that the bare wire is a neutral and not a ground? Interesting. I've always thought that grounded conductors were insulated and grounds were bare. Point is call it what you want to but when it was installed it was code compliant.

 

[steelersman]

that is correct.. there was a strap connecting the frame to neutral lug.

yes that's correct but you misread or misunderstand the statement by aftershock which is what you replied to. It is correct that there should be a strap connecting the frame to the (bare) EGC.

 

[aftershock]

so you're telling me that you think that the bare wire is a neutral and not a ground? Interesting. I've always thought that grounded conductors were insulated and grounds were bare. Point is call it what you want to but when it was installed it was code compliant.

It's hard to tell in the picture, for me anyways. As far as the picture goes, the OP stated that that recep was for something else. Somehow the subject became that of a dryer recep and a neutral wire.

 

[480sparky]

It's hard to tell in the picture, for me anyways. As far as the picture goes, the OP stated that that recep was for something else. Somehow the subject became that of a dryer recep and a neutral wire.

There is no such thing as a 'dryer' recep. There is something called a NEMA 10-30 recep. Standard for older dryers, but this just shows what happens when the vernacular terms get used ('dryer' recep, 'range' recep, etc).

 

[Karl H]

I got it! That phone cord is a choke hazard. The electrical equipment
is mounted with wooden plugs?

 

[bhsrnd]

Yeah, I'm sure there has to be a TIA standard somewhere that squawks at that phone being installed next to that receptacle. The nerve of some people.....

 

[KentAT]

Red conductor appears rather small.

And it appears there is black conductor junctioned with the red one.