Move Ceiling Light Fixture

[AC\DC]

Some one needs to come up with one with a better connection and more space.
After using those a couple times, I’ll never use again. Rather tell homeowner to remove Sheetrock then trace that crap in Sheetrock. Down the road.
At least in manufacture homes there still accessible and they go out a lot on those units.
They are junk!!!!!

 

[LarryFine]

Just curious, if you were going to "bury" the splice anyway, why would you choose the Tyco over the wire nutted in a JB splice? IMO, the JB would be safer, I know it would be cheaper and faster.

I believe the Tyco splice to be reliable when prepped for well.

 

[LarryFine]

. . . 2 did not have good connection to the wires even though there was a definite click when closing the lid.

I first carefully shape the wires with needle-nose pliers so they pass straight through the insulation-displacement slots, so all four edges firmly contact the wire.

Then I carefully cut each wire for the best length in the connector body, because bending changes the wire lengths, and the wire slots are not all the same length.

Finally, I squeeze the connector body directly over the wire slots with Channellocks set so the jaws are parallel at the body thickness, and snap the body closed last.

The last part is important because the stiffness of the plastic cover alone is not always enough to assure that the wires get pushed all the way into the slots.

 

[LarryFine]

Every time I've used one, I put on my magnifiers and push the wire into the crimp with a pair of needle nose and make sure it all looks nice and biting and then close the clam shell.

The bumps on the underside of the clear cover will bottom the wires if you squeeze it with Channellocks.

 

[LarryFine]

They are junk!!!!!

I;m sorry you feel that way. I think careful installation makes a big difference.

 

[Fred B]

Do they have them listed at 600V like most wiring? They ones I've seen are listed only to 300V. I know most applications is only 120V, but seems it does becomes the weakest link and buried within the wall.

 

[James L]

I first carefully shape the wires with needle-nose pliers so they pass straight through the insulation-displacement slots, so all four edges firmly contact the wire.

Then I carefully cut each wire for the best length in the connector body, because bending changes the wire lengths, and the wire slots are not all the same length.

Finally, I squeeze the connector body directly over the wire slots with Channellocks set so the jaws are parallel at the body thickness, and snap the body closed last.

The last part is important because the stiffness of the plastic cover alone is not always enough to assure that the wires get pushed all the way into the slots.

I do all that except the needle nose pliers. Don't needa tool to shape the wires

 

[retirede]

Do they have them listed at 600V like most wiring? They ones I've seen are listed only to 300V. I know most applications is only 120V, but seems it does becomes the weakest link and buried within the wall.

I don’t believe that the voltage rating of the insulation necessarily correlates with the integrity of the splice.

 

[Fred B]

I don’t believe that the voltage rating of the insulation necessarily correlates with the integrity of the splice.

Sort of agree, but most other splice equipment are listed to 600V (wire nuts, insulated butt splice, Polaris connectors, etc) used for normal in box splicing.
Just wondering.

 

[kec]

I've seen wago's behind sheetrock. How are they different from the tyco?

 

[Fred B]

I've seen wago's behind sheetrock. How are they different from the tyco?

Wagos are no different than any wirenut. Must be in and enclosure/ box. The tyco is listed as a boxless connection.

 

[AC\DC]

I;m sorry you feel that way. I think careful installation makes a big difference.

Never said I did not do them carefully. Honestly you think those are a good product?

 

[LarryFine]

Never said I did not do them carefully. Honestly you think those are a good product?

I honestly do. They are a unique product that fills a unique need. I've never known one to fail.

 

[AC\DC]

Maybe I am to stubborn and I am prejudice about those items, from dealing with shoddy installs from manufacture homes.