I am wanting to cause three seperate locations to ring with just one button. I have tried multiple transformers and they seem to cancel each other out. I have tied the normal three way type wiring as with light switches and that doesn't seem to work either. Does any one out there have a salution to this situation. If so ....Thanks for your input.
Multiple Belss????
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hurk27
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Re: Multiple Belss????
Get a wireless doorbell extender it can be placed any where and even carried out by the pool or back yard. We get them from Manard's but I think most of the big box co's have them.
Get a wireless doorbell extender it can be placed any where and even carried out by the pool or back yard. We get them from Manard's but I think most of the big box co's have them.
jimwalker
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Big orange has the wirless and its a cheap way out
Big orange has the wirless and its a cheap way out
luke warmwater
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Personally, I don't like the wireless chimes. They have their place, I guess, but I think that they sound cheap.
Anyway, we get requests for this in large homes, where the owner will want a chime on every floor to ring with the front door button.
At this point, I try to get them to go with cameras or intercom system, but occasionally we do 2-3 chimes.
Other times include a later added finished basement where the owner will want an added chime.
We do as Roger says, and it works fine.
But, hopefully you are using 18ga Chime Wire and not 24ga.Cat3 that alot of the tract home contractors are using.
Personally, I don't like the wireless chimes. They have their place, I guess, but I think that they sound cheap.
Anyway, we get requests for this in large homes, where the owner will want a chime on every floor to ring with the front door button.
At this point, I try to get them to go with cameras or intercom system, but occasionally we do 2-3 chimes.
Other times include a later added finished basement where the owner will want an added chime.
We do as Roger says, and it works fine.
But, hopefully you are using 18ga Chime Wire and not 24ga.Cat3 that alot of the tract home contractors are using.
hbiss
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For simplicity, take the current draw of the sum of all the bells and size (1) transformer to accomodate this total VA.
Do you really think this guy has a clue what you are talking about?
For simplicity, take the current draw of the sum of all the bells and size (1) transformer to accomodate this total VA.
Do you really think this guy has a clue what you are talking about?
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You need to get 3 chimes with the same impedance. 3 chimes that are exactly the same and it will work. Another way is Newtone used to manufacture a relay that would let you isolate the transformers. and connect different chimes together. I don't know if they still manufacture them.
You need to get 3 chimes with the same impedance. 3 chimes that are exactly the same and it will work. Another way is Newtone used to manufacture a relay that would let you isolate the transformers. and connect different chimes together. I don't know if they still manufacture them.
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Re: Multiple Belss????
Why?
jimwalker
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One transformer will work if they all need same voltage and va = to sum of the 3
One transformer will work if they all need same voltage and va = to sum of the 3
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One power supply of the correct voltage and sufficient capacity.
As many chimes and buttons as you want.
All the chimes will be parallel to each other.
All the buttons will be in parallel to each other.
The paralleled group of buttons will be put in series with one conductor of the paralleled group of chimes and one conductor of the power supply.
The other conductor of the paralleled group of chimes will connect directly to the other conductor of the power supply.
What am I missing.
One power supply of the correct voltage and sufficient capacity.
As many chimes and buttons as you want.
All the chimes will be parallel to each other.
All the buttons will be in parallel to each other.
The paralleled group of buttons will be put in series with one conductor of the paralleled group of chimes and one conductor of the power supply.
The other conductor of the paralleled group of chimes will connect directly to the other conductor of the power supply.
What am I missing.
jimwalker
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Bob that covers it perfect
Bob that covers it perfect
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Without getting complicated here, I just took 3 new chimes with the 3 supplied transformers wired the chimes in series and the transformer secondaries in parallel. All 3 chimmed perfectly while being tested, Chimes wired in parallel gave the BEST results.
[ February 16, 2004, 08:31 PM: Message edited by: jgriffin ]
Without getting complicated here, I just took 3 new chimes with the 3 supplied transformers wired the chimes in series and the transformer secondaries in parallel. All 3 chimmed perfectly while being tested, Chimes wired in parallel gave the BEST results.
[ February 16, 2004, 08:31 PM: Message edited by: jgriffin ]
jimwalker
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Im bit confused.You put 3 transformers in parallel,that keeps voltage the same (assumed you matched phases)That gives you roughly 16 volts.If the chimes are in series they each get about 1/3 or 5 volts each.This shouldn't work as wired
Im bit confused.You put 3 transformers in parallel,that keeps voltage the same (assumed you matched phases)That gives you roughly 16 volts.If the chimes are in series they each get about 1/3 or 5 volts each.This shouldn't work as wired
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Re: Multiple Belss????
Five 24 VAC chimes in series and you won't need a transformer.
Five 24 VAC chimes in series and you won't need a transformer.
jimwalker
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Bob, thats a bit risky to hit that button.Unless you have 120 volt button LOL
Bob, thats a bit risky to hit that button.Unless you have 120 volt button LOL
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