National Electrical code

russellyoungblood said:
The NEC is national...
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The NFPA, a private organization, publishes the NEC as a model or advisory code; it has no force of law until a jurisdiction formally adopts it, and a state or smaller jurisdiction has the freedom to adopt a different electrical code if they chose and aren't otherwise prohibited by law. Jurisdictions are also free to amend that code as they see fit, also within the bounds of law. The International Building code is the same, it has to be formally adopted to have any force. And the same for the many other codes written by non-governmental entities.

Oh, and here's another one- the NFPA publishes codes 1123 (Code for Fireworks Display) and 1126 (Standard for the Use of Pyrotechnics Before a Proximate Audience); many states use those but California has their own and I think a couple of other states do, too.

I don't see what your point is, other than having a misconception of how specific codes come into force.
 
russellyoungblood said:
The NEC is national regardless of what your state,city,county does,the fact remains that the NEC is national w/o question. If your state does not adhere to the code then does your state even have authority or jurisdiction over anything except themselves and own limited opinions?
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The NEC is just a bunch of words if it is not formally adopted by a jurisdiction. What they adopt in it's place (if anything) is up to them. The can have no electrical code and no licensing if they choose so as far as the NEC being an enforceable national electrical code it is not. Saying that it is is incorrect.
 
russellyoungblood said:
My opinion is that if your state does not follow national guidelines that govern our profession then what are you even tested on for your licenses,CE,etc? The NEC is national regardless of what your state,city,county does,the fact remains that the NEC is national w/o question. If your state does not adhere to the code then does your state even have authority or jurisdiction over anything except themselves and own limited opinions? Cmon join us,let our collective wisdom guide you too! Otherwise you might slip into cultism and close mindedness,its a characteristic of those groups to isolate and reject conventional wisdom...
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russellyoungblood said:
My opinion is that if your state does not follow national guidelines that govern our profession then what are you even tested on for your licenses,CE,etc? The NEC is national regardless of what your state,city,county does,the fact remains that the NEC is national w/o question. If your state does not adhere to the code then does your state even have authority or jurisdiction over anything except themselves and own limited opinions? Cmon join us,let our collective wisdom guide you too! Otherwise you might slip into cultism and close mindedness,its a characteristic of those groups to isolate and reject conventional wisdom...
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In many cases, the adoption of an electrical code is based on the NEC, but with local amendments. Often, the local testing, includes testing on the amendments.

It can't really be a "national code" in terms of legal adoption because of the Tenth Amendment.

There is no cultism or closed mindedness in the adoption of local codes that more closely fits the needs of that local area. For example, because big cities often have more problems with rodents, a number of big cities require the use of MC or AC in place of NM and at least one requires the use of EMT.

In addition, there is no reason to believe that the NFPA gets everything right in the terms of electrical safety.
 
russellyoungblood said:
My opinion is that if your state does not follow national guidelines that govern our profession then what are you even tested on for your licenses,CE,etc? ...
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Some states, my state New York being one of them, does not have State licensing. There is some local licensing, typically just larger cities upstate, and there is some county wide licensing surrounding New York City, but geographically I bet you could work in 95% of the state with no license.
 
"Cmon join us,let our collective wisdom guide you too! Otherwise you might slip into cultism and close mindedness,its a characteristic of those groups to isolate and reject conventional wisdom..."

Okay, I'll bite. Who, exactly, is "us" and what cult is involved?
 
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