NEC 314.29(A) How far we can regard a device accessible from ceiling opening

[Jin Kim]

Hello,

I am stuck with article NEC 314.29(A).
Does anyone have any clue or code/standard reference that states the maximum distance from the ceiling access panel to electrical boxes in the ceiling space?

314.29
(A) In Buildings and Other Structures. Boxes and conduit bodies
must be installed so the wiring contained within is accessible without
removing any part of the building or structure.

410.118
Luminaires recessed in ceilings, floors, or walls must not be used to
access outlet, pull, junction boxes, or conduit bodies unless the box
or conduit body is an integral part of the listed luminaire.

 

[infinity]

You have to decide if you can access the box or not. If yes then it's accesible. It doesn't need to be convenient or easy.

 

[Jin Kim]

You have to decide if you can access the box or not. If yes then it's accesible. It doesn't need to be convenient or easy.

Thank you for the input, but it would become really subjective matter then.

 

[infinity]

Thank you for the input, but it would become really subjective matter then.

You're correct because it is somewhat subjective based on whether or not someone could get to the junction box in the future.

 

[kwired]

You're correct because it is somewhat subjective based on whether or not someone could get to the junction box in the future.

Or even if same person that installed it can access it 30 years later

 

[petersonra]

You're correct because it is somewhat subjective based on whether or not someone could get to the junction box in the future.

It does not matter what might be down the road.

 

[GerryB]

Good question. Not only in commercial but how about residential, kitchen or bath remodel, turn a box around so it's in the attic corner, accessible on your belly burrowing through insulation.

 

[kwired]

Good question. Not only in commercial but how about residential, kitchen or bath remodel, turn a box around so it's in the attic corner, accessible on your belly burrowing through insulation.

Steep pitch roof maybe or even likely, low pitch roof maybe not.

 

[Tulsa Electrician]

Common sense maybe.

 

[infinity]

It does not matter what might be down the road.

Hmm, if I install it today and it's required to be accessible it stills needs to be accessible tomorrow. I would say that's in the future.