jdaly
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- Herndon, VA
AllAll,
We do a lot of work in a local jurisdiction around Herndon, VA and one county is requiring us to list the room numbers on the panel schedules on the permit submission drawings (NEC 408.4). No other local jurisdiction is requiring this but they are holding firm on their position. As we know, room numbers can often change at the last minute or the electrician could wire the receptacles up differently than what is shown on the plans based on the existing field conditions or how the new panelboard comes from the manufacturer. We just don't see any benefit to doing this at permit document submission level but rather feel this is something the electrician needs to coordinate and comply with once he is done with the project and all of the circuits and room numbers have been finalized.
Article 408.4 states that this has to be done at the completion of the project and who better to do this than the electrician once all of the circuits are pulled and the room numbers are finalized? We just feel that doing this on the front end provides no real benefit because typically panel schedules at the end of the project don?t look anything like the panel schedules that were prepared on the permit set of documents. We feel this is a requirement the electrician has to comply with in the field and not the design engineer in preparation of the plans for permit submission.
I welcome the thoughts of electrical engineers, electricians and electrical inspectors on this topic and what their interpretation of the code requirements for 408.4 should be. Should this be on the design engineer or should this be on the electrician to coordinate in the field with actual field conditions, pulled and demoed circuits and finalized room numbers?
Thanks,
Joe
We do a lot of work in a local jurisdiction around Herndon, VA and one county is requiring us to list the room numbers on the panel schedules on the permit submission drawings (NEC 408.4). No other local jurisdiction is requiring this but they are holding firm on their position. As we know, room numbers can often change at the last minute or the electrician could wire the receptacles up differently than what is shown on the plans based on the existing field conditions or how the new panelboard comes from the manufacturer. We just don't see any benefit to doing this at permit document submission level but rather feel this is something the electrician needs to coordinate and comply with once he is done with the project and all of the circuits and room numbers have been finalized.
Article 408.4 states that this has to be done at the completion of the project and who better to do this than the electrician once all of the circuits are pulled and the room numbers are finalized? We just feel that doing this on the front end provides no real benefit because typically panel schedules at the end of the project don?t look anything like the panel schedules that were prepared on the permit set of documents. We feel this is a requirement the electrician has to comply with in the field and not the design engineer in preparation of the plans for permit submission.
I welcome the thoughts of electrical engineers, electricians and electrical inspectors on this topic and what their interpretation of the code requirements for 408.4 should be. Should this be on the design engineer or should this be on the electrician to coordinate in the field with actual field conditions, pulled and demoed circuits and finalized room numbers?
Thanks,
Joe