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[frizbeedog]

I never thought I was smart...

I never thought I was smart...

Allright you smart guys. The code says that the switch must be within sight of the light fixture.

Read 410.130 (G) Disconnecting Means (1) General....

.....shall have a disconnecting means either internal or external to each lumnaire.

What switch?

 

[frizbeedog]

Or do I install the switch in between the lamp sockets? No that will not work. QUOTE]

The link I provided in post #5 Will satisfy the code requirement. Placed between the supply conductors and the ballast.

 

[JohnJ0906]

The link I provided in post #5 Will satisfy the code requirement. Placed between the supply conductors and the ballast.

Every new flouresent I have installed in the last few months came with those already installed.

 

[stickboy1375]

Allright you smart guys. The code says that the switch must be within sight of the light fixture. So if I have a 2x4 lay in ceiling fixture where does the code say the switch must be. Inside the light fixture unless you have x-ray vision. Now where inside a 2x4 fluorescent can you install a switch so the wires will be hidden by the ballast cover? Install the switch to the cover so when you remove the cover it is hanging down by the wires. How safe is that. Or do I install the switch in between the lamp sockets? No that will not work. Oh yea I now have to cut the ceiling tile out and install a ceiling box so the switch will be insight of the lay in fixture. And then I have to wire it. And you say you will only charge me $1.00 That wont pay for the material. I have not heard of or bought any lay in light fixtures with switches installed by the factory. I would think that the factory would have to redesign the light fixture so the wires are concealed and the cover can be removed safely. I would also think that the cost would be more than a $1.00. The illustration I saw was of a surface mounted fixture a fluorescent strip. So anywhere you put the switch on the fixture the switch will be within sight of and the wires will be concealed.

http://www.rexelusa.com/pdf/PO_v7n3_Thomas_Betts.pdf

 

[cpal]

Allright you smart guys.

I'll take any compliment regardless of sarcasm .

The bigger issue is this is a public forum. Many younger electricians cruise these pages to glean knowledge. It is very simple to instruct learners to work live.
But working live exposes the employer and employee to injury and liability what if someone is hurt or killed.

NFPA 70E and OSHA, have been struggling since the 70?s to alter the culture we work under, and I believe it is fiinally beginning to take. Lets instruct safe reliable and professional methods and help influence that change in culture. Our livelihood depends upon it . Not to mention our families and co-workers.

 

[haskindm]

Arnolds,
Welcome to the 21st century. It is a new day and worker safety is the new order. In "the old days" it was expected and accepted that there would be "a few deaths" on every major construction project. I don't remember the exact number, but there was a program about the Hoover dam and they mentioned how many workers were entombed in the dam. This is no longer acceptable. We may miss the old days of "iron men" giving up their lives to build this country and provide for their families, but how many families were left destitute because the breadwinner was lost to some senseless construction accident. Working anything "hot" is no longer accepted. I am old enough to remember doing so as a matter of course. I was lucky and never seriously hurt on the job, but did receive some "shocks". Those days are over. Qualified or not, we no longer should be working on energized circuits. This disconnect for fluorescent lights is a major step in the right direction. It is just unfortunate that the NEC did not require that all brands be made to a standard. There are now many devices available to meet this code that are not interchangeable with each other.