Need advice for long pulls

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electricalperson

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get the wire pre cut on spools and use a rope for the 1/0. you can use a smaller rope for the others. put an eye in the rope by splicing it and have someone pull it and somebody else feed. its probably easier to feed the wire in at the panel
 

chris kennedy

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Miami Fla.
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60 yr old tool twisting electrician
Set up can take several hours ,setting up large reels on jacks mounting the tugger and getting a pull rope in the pipe.

get the wire pre cut on spools and use a rope for the 1/0. you can use a smaller rope for the others. put an eye in the rope by splicing it and have someone pull it and somebody else feed. its probably easier to feed the wire in at the panel

Good advice for sure. But grasping at straws until the type and size of conduit is stated along with lenght of the pull.
 

Rewire

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length and pipe size and # of bends are needed for a true estimate of time ,I have had to set up at a junction box in the middle of a conduit run and pull both directions because of 90s
 

ericsherman37

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Oregon Coast
I've created a diagram to assist:

wirepulling.jpg
 

Cow

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Eastern Oregon
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Electrician
We regularly do 1600-2500'+ pulls of #2-1/0 aluminum out to irrigation pivots. SOP for us is to lay the pipe next to the ditch with no stubups on the end(technically an NEC violation:roll:). Glue the pipe so the bells are smooth side towards the wire feeding end. Suck in a blue pullstring or kitestring with a regular shop vac, and depending on length, use that to pull in a red pullstring or baling twine. Then that pulls in a 3/8 cable we have on a winch truck. Use a Greenlee swiveler on any rope or cable you use to keep the wires from twisting into quadplex.

Depending on your pull, you may be able to get away with pulling your wire in with baling twine, no cable or heavy rope needed.
 
Currently spec'd at 2" PVC underground. Obviously 90's at the start and end. The remainder of the run should not require any "made" bends (ie should be able to drop the pipe in the trench and influence it. I don't know the elevation change. I'm looking at a plan sheet, I haven't seen the site yet. FWIW I'm looking at this job for an excavator that I have a real good relationship w/ so he will work w/ me closely to cut the trench to ease my pain.

Also I'm kind of guessing at the wire sizes as I have practically no info on this (plans are probably good for wrapping fish but not much else). I'm just looking to get a base line so I can get some reasonable guess at a number and then qualify the heck out of it.
 

dduffee260

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Location
Texas
Use a wire sock, they are worth the money in the long run. Also we use the clear lube. It seems to work well and cleans up really nice. Those pulls should not be much at all. You do need a few hands for a day or so. As far as a tugger I bet the Maxis 3000lb would work.

We have several projects right now that have 500 and 600 kcmil pulls of over 400 ft. We have an Ultra Cable Feeder for the reels and the right reel stands. The best advice I have is prepare well. Do not try to cut corners. If there is a way to screw up a wire pull it will happen. Keep all the debris away from the reels. Make sure the pipe is clean because if there is a rock in it you are in for a bad day. Good luck, David
 
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