Jerramundi
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- Licensed Residential Electrician
Not sure. I hear "barrier" and I think lattice fence.
Need Advice on a Spa Hookup
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Amps
Electrical Contractor
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- New Jersey
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- Electrical, Security, Networks and Everything Else.
I want to thank everyone for their contributions to this post. Each one has helped me decide to pass on this job. The owner has been hypnotized by the patio installer who said he could cement a post in the patio for the disconnect and is against having a conduit in the slab. Also, no permits have be filed yet, and they will demo the old patio and install new. For all I know those poles with the drapes are structural and the whole darn deck above will fall down! I'm outta there!
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- Semi-Retired Electrician
Run, Forest, RUN!
Jerramundi
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He's against conduit in the slab because he doesn't know what he's doing and wants to take the easy route of just slacking some flex from a more closely placed disconnect. Probably doesn't even know about the 5 ft requirement or he does now because he used you for information. Can't tell you how many times that's happened to me. I do my homework, come in with the info, share it, then don't get the job. Waste of time.
This is the kinda stuff that drives me nuts. You spend all this time looking at code and figuring out the right way to do it and then the patio installer gets the jerb because he's got some better business slang and a better smile. What a world.
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- New Jersey
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- Journeyman Electrician
Sometimes that the best choice. If you were very desperate for work then you might have to take the job anyway and deal with the aftermath.
Amps
Electrical Contractor
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- Electrical, Security, Networks and Everything Else.
You are 100% correct. Thank you for the validation!
you should offer to run the power all the way to the disconnect and let him take it from there.
Is this the "give him enough rope" method?
kwired
Electron manager
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- NE Nebraska
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- EC
No, you should file for a permit even if you originally wasn't going to or need to. Then when inspector is obligated to inspect it because it is on record tell them you were forced off the job before it ever started. They still have this permit though and possibly must follow through with finalizing it at some point - meaning it likely will be code compliant regardless of who does the work, or at very least give the owner the headache of dealing with the inspector on something that likely has some violations.
Exactly how that works out may vary from place to place, and in some places may even trigger permits/inspections of other trades that maybe wasn't planning for them.
Ps. The code that would apply to not running the conduit on top of the patio is in the building code, not the NEC. If it is a walking surface you cannot have a change in the height of more than a half an inch, the conduit would defiantly create a trip hazard.
kwired
Electron manager
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- NE Nebraska
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- EC
Conduit only on top of the surface, you probably correct.
If your change in elevation of finished surfaces is gradual enough, I bet it is acceptable.
It would meet the code minimum, but meeting the code minimum is like getting a D- on an exam.
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