Needing a new Journeyman Electrician

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emahler

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point taken - but i have not had a 40 hour work week in a number of months - its funny that you noticed the undercutting, lowballing but not the HOUSE FIRE and i do not want to be the most expensive contractor in the city - but i do feel that if you are one of the higher paid rate contractors in the city you SHOULD NOT BUILD FIRES

incompetence knows no price point...that would have happened if he charged $40 or $110...

the fact that he gets $110/hr for incompetent help should easily justify $110/hr for competent help from you...


Stewart Services is in your neighborhood, correct?
 
Why not come up with a test? Say 20 questions ...YOU need to be fiqure out what your getting for the job at hand ...comm,res, ind. questions .....You don't need a poser ...We have 13 guys in our shop 10 are barely capable of working on there there own ...I'm tired of training people ....
 

480sparky

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I've seen very talented, bright, experienced electricians bomb company tests. It's not very conclusive, IMO.

Same goes for JW/Master/EC tests.

I've known some guys out there who have been running huge commercial jobs for years (hospitals, shopping malls, etc.) that couldn't pass the JW test to save their life. They're still darn good 'lectershuns, but just can't pass the test.

OTOH, I've seen 2nd-year apprentices who have already passed their Master's test and are just putting in their time until they get their hours documented.
 
I got another question for you all: Are we out of control on this thread?

I just got a PM from a moderator about too much advertising on this thread.

I'm a bit confused since I just asked for help on this manner...

So, I guess that I'll just ask that anyone that has anything that they think could help me... would you please PM me so that we do not get muted / edited / flamed / banned...

Thanks,

Greg
 

George Stolz

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I got another question for you all: Are we out of control on this thread?

I just got a PM from a moderator about too much advertising on this thread.
Whoa, there. I've been keeping an eye on this one as well, because from the heading and original post, it was on the fine line of solicitation. Personally, I took no action because I saw you were seeking input on your solicitation outside of the forum, which made it a shade different, but very similar nonetheless. I would not characterize the behavior in this thread as "out of control", and I think that your question is a little loaded - don't you think?

I can understand Jim's action, and support it.

Your original post had four questions, three of which that are fully within the scope of the forum, and can be discussed without the visual aid of your Craigslist ad. Would you agree with that assessment? :)

So, I guess that I'll just ask that anyone that has anything that they think could help me... would you please PM me so that we do not get muted / edited / flamed / banned...
Greg, unfortunately, the wheels are already in motion. Everyone in this thread is either going to be banned or die of natural causes, whichever comes first. :D
 
Whoa, there. I've been keeping an eye on this one as well, because from the heading and original post, it was on the fine line of solicitation. Personally, I took no action because I saw you were seeking input on your solicitation outside of the forum, which made it a shade different, but very similar nonetheless. I would not characterize the behavior in this thread as "out of control", and I think that your question is a little loaded - don't you think?

I can understand Jim's action, and support it.

Your original post had four questions, three of which that are fully within the scope of the forum, and can be discussed without the visual aid of your Craigslist ad. Would you agree with that assessment? :)

Greg, unfortunately, the wheels are already in motion. Everyone in this thread is either going to be banned or die of natural causes, whichever comes first. :D

George,
I am sorry that you support his actions.

I asked for help...

The ad in question... was to get a JOURNEYMAN electrician... not soliciting BUSINESS...

That is REALLY what upsets me... I asked for help... and any help that I got... regarding where to seek a journeyman... is now deleted... because someone thinks I am advertising too much...

I am asking for help... and I get shut down... yeah... I'm upset! :mad:
Greg
 

George Stolz

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That is REALLY what upsets me... I asked for help... and any help that I got... regarding where to seek a journeyman... is now deleted... because someone thinks I am advertising too much...

I am asking for help... and I get shut down... yeah... I'm upset! :mad:
Greg
I can understand that, and I empathize, but look at the flip side of the coin: your original post can be construed as soliciting for electricians from this forum. If someone were to say that you built the original post up a bit to distract from it, but that was your initial goal, they would have a plausible case for that argument, wouldn't they?

This would be a good place to advertise that you were looking for help, right? Heck, I found my current employer from this forum; the employer found a code-geek employee, and the employee found a like-minded employer. However, that ball got rolling without public solicitation on the Forum.

So, I need to ask two things: one, cool down for the night about the issue.

Two, if you wake up in the morning and still feel like things aren't right, let's continue this discussion via PM, as detailed here. Continuing the discussion in this thread will not aid in answering your very valid last three questions in the OP, and will only muck it up. In the meantime, the undisputed portion of the thread can continue uninterrupted.

Agreed? :)
 
I can understand that, and I empathize, but look at the flip side of the coin: your original post can be construed as soliciting for electricians from this forum. If someone were to say that you built the original post up a bit to distract from it, but that was your initial goal, they would have a plausible case for that argument, wouldn't they?
Wow, that's quite a stretch...


So, I need to ask two things: one, cool down for the night about the issue.

Two, if you wake up in the morning and still feel like things aren't right, let's continue this discussion via PM, as detailed here. Continuing the discussion in this thread will not aid in answering your very valid last three questions in the OP, and will only muck it up. In the meantime, the undisputed portion of the thread can continue uninterrupted.

Agreed? :)
So, you tell me to take things to PM... but tell me in public to cool down... how diplomatic.

You know... I took it to PM before I brought it public... But hey, I got no response... so... I brought things to light...

Good night.
 

bjp_ne_elec

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Ok, so you remember my last thread about the car wash... well, the Journeyman has decided to quit. (I did not pressure him at all, I did not ask, encourage, or even hint to this...)

So, Friday's his last day.

I am now on the hunt for a new Journeyman.

Here is the link for my craigslist ad:xxxx

First off: What do you think about the ad?

Second: What do YOU look for in hiring a new guy?

Third: Do you have any interview scripts?

Fourth: Where else should I advertise?

Thanks,
Greg

Definitely make sure he understands motor control circuitry. ;)

As far as the ad, I would never ask an employee to have his own power tools - that's something the contractor should supply. Hand tools - absolutely, but you supply the hack saw blades!
 

480sparky

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Have you thought about requiring a current drivers' license? Your insurance may require a valid DL if the person is going to operate company vehicles.
 
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