Neutral for switch for Half-Hot

[al hildenbrand]

sorry I was thinking one half -switched receptacle

No, you got it correct. George's "half hot" is in fact a "half switched duplex". The quote of George's in your last post that gave you pause was in response to your idea of feeding the "hot half" of the duplex receptacle separate from the "switched leg" from the three-way switching.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

No, you got it correct. George's "half hot" is in fact a "half switched duplex". The quote of George's in your last post that gave you pause was in response to your idea of feeding the "hot half" of the duplex receptacle separate from the "switched leg" from the three-way switching.

I thought he only had one half switched outlet not all the outlets in the room

 

[al hildenbrand]

I thought he only had one half switched outlet not all the outlets in the room

I don't think he actually specified how many in the area were switched. If it really is all of a room's duplex receptacles, then the room literally is "half hot"!

 

[Dennis Alwon]

And jam four 14-2s in 1098s around a room filled with half hots?

I don't think he actually specified how many in the area were switched. If it really is all of a room's duplex receptacles, then the room literally is "half hot"!

Looks like a room full of switched half hot outlets to me.

 

[al hildenbrand]

This is a threeway for a half hot.

Looks like a room full of switched half hot outlets to me.

We'll find out, I'm sure, when he chimes in.

 

[al hildenbrand]

The use of "hots" and the singular "a", to me still leaves the "half hot" as a singular "half switched duplex", and thus the answer to Dick's question.

 

[dicklaxt]

The use of "hots" and the singular "a", to me still leaves the "half hot" as a singular "half switched duplex", and thus the answer to Dick's question.

Thanks based on that ,I'll now go back and see what this post is about,,,,,,is "half hot" common jargon between the residential trades?

dick

 

[al hildenbrand]

. . .is "half hot" common jargon between the residential trades?

Actually, in all my years, this was new to me. But that's not saying much.

I suspect it's a mountain thing. . . and thinking of the source, here, it might even be a "George" thing.

 

[George Stolz]

The way they drew it, every recep in the bedrooms are half switched.

Half hot may be a local term, it's easier to say than "switched outlet."

 

[ActionDave]

I call them half hots.

What is a 1098?

 

[George Stolz]

http://www.alliedmoulded.com/index....egory/template/products_sub_res/categoryid/54

 

[al hildenbrand]

I call them half hots.

See!

Mountain thing.

 

[ActionDave]

See!

Mountain thing.

From the Land of 1000 Lakes you could make that assumption. What you need to know is that where George is most folks do not even know where to look on the map to find where I am.

 

[bullheimer]

i see no use in 4 wire and just did a house with two outlets on a three way in two different areas. dont see the point, when 3 wire works fine. Did as Dennis described, which is the only way i ever run a 3 way, if i can help it. All switches now installed in WA have to have a neutral unless one can be added easily later (run in conduit or fished in). which sounds kinda weird, but whadda i know? But it makes it soooo much easier for me to go into a house to trim out when there are NO dead end three wires in a box.