Not up to code, but it works, that's what they said.

[Alexis Enrique]

Came across this, there is not need to follow NEC to make it work. But how people can do this, this is a public place, 3 feet from side walk, this is for a business sign.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

I would be tempted to call the inspection department to report this dangerous situation.

 

[roger]

I agree with Dennis 100%

 

[kwired]

What if inspection department feels this is less danger than just walking around in said neighborhood?

 

[Fred B]

"Lights come on so what's the problem?"
Get that questions all the time.
"The code is just a bunch of bureaucratic B*" or, "It's just the "Man" getting in the way of me doing what I want.", is another one I get as a responce to the reason given for the first.

 

[acin]

do you think the short pvc is the switch leg?

 

[LarryFine]

do you think the short pvc is the switch leg?

I'd guess that one of them is a feed out to another, equally scary pole.

 

[electrofelon]

Just to make sure we are all on the same page, the issue with the installation is the lack of a photocell and resultant wasting of 'lectricity Yes? I don't see any other issues.

 

[BarryO]

"Lights come on so what's the problem?"
Get that questions all the time.
"The code is just a bunch of bureaucratic B*" or, "It's just the "Man" getting in the way of me doing what I want.", is another one I get as a responce to the reason given for the first.

"The screw has to be green? Give me a break. Just use a drywall screw and you're good to go".

 

[Fred B]

Specific to the photo.
Why do you need that grey pipe for electrical the white is cheaper?
Why do you need to have that lousy UF cable? It's so much harder to work with and more expensive. So, why can't I just us Romex?
Why do I need a box on the pipes? I put the wire nut "heads up" so no water will get in.
Why do I need a box on the lights at bottom of pole? The one at top didn't have any box.

 

[Frank DuVal]

Good to go, because tape was used on the wirenuts.

 

[kwired]

"The screw has to be green? Give me a break. Just use a drywall screw and you're good to go".

Screw has to be green is a somewhat common misunderstanding. Only screw NEC requires to be green is if said screw is the main/system bonding jumper in say a panelboard, fused disconnect, etc.

General purpose "grounding screws" we purchase for use in general use metallic boxes usually are green, but nothing requires them to be green.

 

[Bill Annett]

The city that I use to work at adopted the International Property Maintainace Code.

Section 605 ( Electrical Equipment ) in that section, Section 605.1 States, under Installation. Electrical equipment, wiring and appliances shall be properly installed and maintained in a safe and approved manner. I would think that the issues in the original post would be covered by this section and the installation would have to corrected to fix the hazards. The city also has a web site that people can report Property maintenance issues.

Thanks, Bill

 

[drcampbell]

Steal their wire nuts and short out the feeder every time you walk by. Maybe that will provoke them into installing a junction box.

 

[Jpflex]

Came across this, there is not need to follow NEC to make it work. But how people can do this, this is a public place, 3 feet from side walk, this is for a business sign.




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That’s the mentality that the company I worked for had. Just because they were at a mine site that wasn’t regulated by NEC the owner and his sons would demand their electricians to do unsafe work such as burying SOOW cord, using it as a feeder to shipping containers converted to employee housing, and splicing the SOOW wires with wire nuts without a box.

Or how about telling us to remove GFCI receptacles outside because the owner hates “nuisance tripping.” Or supplying us with old auctioned junk equipment, cabinets and breaker panels who's covers no longer fit due to being bent or damaged. Forced to use old SOOW Cord with ripped insulation and exposed 480 volt phase wires. Forced to use outdated 1940s disconnects for motors with unmatched voltage, horsepower and interrupting current ratings. Motors with cracked insulation on supply terminal leads and missing or scratched off nameplates.

Then when things go wrong such as breaker panel covers falling off, disconnect switches being difficult to pull to disconnect or motors catching fire, the blame goes to employees who followed their dictates against the electricians advice.

I wrote about these things on this forum in the past but many acted as if my complaints were not valid because “electricians on this forum often ysed old and rusted equipment all the time and there was nothing in code to disallow it,” which I contest is not valid and is unsafe, not neat or workmanlike

 

[charlie b]

"An accident waiting for a place to happen will, given time, find that place." (Famous saying by some famous guy.)

 

[ggunn]

"An accident waiting for a place to happen will, given time, find that place." (Famous saying by some famous guy.)

Murphy, perhaps?

 

[LarryFine]

Murphy, perhaps?

 

[letgomywago]

Screw has to be green is a somewhat common misunderstanding. Only screw NEC requires to be green is if said screw is the main/system bonding jumper in say a panelboard, fused disconnect, etc.

General purpose "grounding screws" we purchase for use in general use metallic boxes usually are green, but nothing requires them to be green.

Canadian boxes always come with a bare metal screw and the Iberville ones are really wide pan heads instead of hex so you can get the wire in with a lot of surface area.

 

[drcampbell]

Canadian boxes always come with a bare metal screw and the Iberville ones are really wide pan heads instead of hex so you can get the wire in with a lot of surface area.

Terminal screws don't just have wide heads; there's a groove cut on the underside of the head to urge the wire toward the center as it's tightened.