Ohio Reverts back to 2005 NEC

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The 2005 NEC will be permanently in effect for all electrical installations in 1, 2 and 3, family dwellings in Ohio.

All other types of construction will follow the 2008 NEC (including 4 or more family dwellings).
 
resistance said:
Not a shock!
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It is a bit of a shock after all the testimony given to the Board of Building Standards here in Ohio and the seeming lack of explanation or justification for not staying with the 2008 NEC.

Pete
 
Hard for me to understand.

Here in MA we have been on the 2008 NEC since 1/1/08 and the sky has not fallen. Homes are still being built. :)
 
iwire said:
Hard for me to understand.

Here in MA we have been on the 2008 NEC since 1/1/08 and the sky has not fallen. Homes are still being built. :)
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Waaaahhhh. Boo Hoo. :mad: I wanna live in Massachusetts....we're still on the 2002 for 1 & 2 family dwellings:confused: .
 
Ohio Reverts back to 2005 NEC

pete m. said:
It is a bit of a shock after all the testimony given to the Board of Building Standards here in Ohio and the seeming lack of explanation or justification for not staying with the 2008 NEC.

Pete
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It makes me wonder what the deference is between 1,2 and 3 family dwellings and those over 3 family,they are all a residence.
 
jbt260 said:
The 2005 NEC will be permanently in effect for all electrical installations in 1, 2 and 3, family dwellings in Ohio.

All other types of construction will follow the 2008 NEC (including 4 or more family dwellings).
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Don't read too much into that word "permanent". . It's only "permanent" when compared to the governors temporary emergency order. . All it really means is that it is a finding by the OBBS [Ohio Board of Building Standards]. . Governors emergency orders are categorized as "temporary". . OBBS orders are categorized as "permanent". . The governors emergency order only covered 3 months and the original plan of the OBBS was to create a committee to study the situation and report back to them by Oct 1. . After the OBBS gets their report from their new committee, then they will make a truely permanent ruling.

With the governors temporary emergency order in effect from April thru June, the OBBS had to take some sort of action to get from July to Oct. . Compared to the governors action, OBBS action is considered "permanent" ..... but according to their own plans, it's not "permanent". . It's really stop-gap.

pete m. said:
It is a bit of a shock after all the testimony given to the Board of Building Standards here in Ohio and the seeming lack of explanation or justification for not staying with the 2008 NEC.
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If you consider what they were actually doing, it's not a shock at all. . They are just doing a stop-gap measure for July thru Oct. . And we all expect this stop-gap to be in force from July thru Dec. . The testimony will impact their next decision which is what to do long term.

So what's being enforced in Ohio ?
It all depends on each projects application for plan review date.
If you consider a period of about 2 years since the state took over code decision control from local municipalities on May 27, 2007, you end up with this:

May '07 thru Dec '07, residential [1,2,3 fam] - '05 NEC
May '07 thru Dec '07, commercial [includes 4 or more fam] - '05 NEC

Jan '08 thru March '08, residential [1,2,3 fam] - '08 NEC
Jan '08 thru March '08, commercial [includes 4 or more fam] - '08 NEC

April '08 thru June '08, residential [1,2,3 fam] - '05 NEC
This is under the governors temporary emergency order.
April '08 thru June '08, commercial [includes 4 or more fam] - '08 NEC

July '08 thru ????? [probably until Dec '08], residential [1,2,3 fam] - '05 NEC
This is under the OBBS "permanent" stop-gap order.
July '08 thru Dec '08, commercial [includes 4 or more fam] - '08 NEC

Jan '09 onward, residential [1,2,3 fam] - ??? NEC
This will undoubtedly be the finding of the real OBBS permanent order that will truly be permanent.
Jan '09 onward, commercial [includes 4 or more fam] - '08 NEC

On a thread from a couple months again, I was questioning the Oct 1st date given to the newly created Commerce Department electrical code committee. . My question was: What happens on July 1st if this committee decides to wait til Oct to make a decision ?

Now we know.

We have a stop-gap "permanent" OBBS order to fill the gap until the final decision is made.

Added date by request of David, Bob
 
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romeo said:
It makes me wonder what the deference is between 1,2 and 3 family dwellings and those over 3 family,they are all a residence.
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Ohio building code is divided into 2 completely separate codes:
RCO, Residential Code of Ohio for 1,2,+3 family dwellings
and
OBC, Ohio Building Code for everything else

It can make for a strange situation sometimes. . For example, we have one townhouse development with some strips that are 3 unit, some 4 unit, and some 5 unit. . The 3 unit strips are built under a completely different code than the 4 + 5 unit strips.
 
romeo said:
It makes me wonder what the deference is between 1,2 and 3 family dwellings and those over 3 family,they are all a residence.
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The difference is the family that purchases a brand new home, at least in Ohio, will not be afforded the same level of safety as the family that rents a newly built apartment just across the street with respect to the electrical installation.

Pete
 
pete m. said:
The difference is the family that purchases a brand new home, at least in Ohio, will not be afforded the same level of safety as the family that rents a newly built apartment just across the street with respect to the electrical installation.

Pete
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Very well put Pete and I am sure that was what Romeo was onto as well. :smile:
 
pete m. said:
The difference is the family that purchases a brand new home, at least in Ohio, will not be afforded the same level of safety as the family that rents a newly built apartment just across the street with respect to the electrical installation.

Pete
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Same in New York State. 2002 NEC and RCNYS (based on 2002 NEC) for 1 & 2 Family Dwellings....2005 NEC for Multiple Dwellings and all other buildings. Different strokes for ____________ folks.:-?
 
Here in CA we're still on the 2005, but there is talk of adopting the IRC next cycle for residential and then use the NEC for everything else.

My BO is all for it he said that way the inspectors won't have to carry as many books, I asked him how he figured that since in reality it adds a book. His answer was "well, for the guys doing residential."

I told him that they were going to write that thing and then every couple of inspections we would run into a problem because they figured that Article 210 was the only thing they needed. I only say that because it's a bunch of building officials trying to reinvent the wheel.
 
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