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Now that a Dillahickey If I ever saw one.Your right build and they will come. US patent office here I come :) I`m gonna be rich,I`m gonna be rich :)
 
I have used a fishtape and attached stranded thhn to it and pushed it the whole way. I have used this method many times and has worked well. It works in 1/2", 3/4", and 1" with up to 3 90's. The hook should double back and look like an oval. After the pull is done I cut the fishtape head off so when pulling it back I don't damage any of the wires. I learned that the hard way. The longest run was about 150' with a couple 90's. Give it a try!
 
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I have used a fishtape and attached stranded thhn to it and pushed it the whole way. I have used this method many times and has worked well. It works in 1/2", 3/4", and 1" with up to 3 90's. The hook should double back and look like an oval. After the pull is done I cut the fishtape head off so when pulling it back I don't damage any of the wires. I learned that the hard way. The longest run was about 150' with a couple 90's. Give it a try!
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I never considered this, I like it! Thanks for the tip!:smile:
 
Ya know... Although I would have a real hard time doing that as I have a leader on all my tapes, even without the hook you could still do quite a bit of damage with pulling the cut end of a tape out. The friction alone on the side of the conductors could do just as much if not more damage.
 
allenwayne said:
Now that a Dillahickey If I ever saw one.Your right build and they will come. US patent office here I come :) I`m gonna be rich,I`m gonna be rich :)
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Im not sure you could patent a patented item by simply repurposing the same idea.... (that item there has several) But, I had kept that one in mind for some time as a good money maker.... But, sales would be limited by how much something like that would cost, and as soon as you develope a market for it Greenlee would start making one and absorb your market share through compitition. For instance, the "No-dog Level", now all kinds of companies make an item simular, but have a grip on distribtion.

I do have another big money maker in mind that could be patented (I think by improving a control) but the body of the idea is centuries old, just not available for field use. What it is, I'm not tellin'.....
 
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Im not sure you could patent a patented item by simply repurposing the same idea.... (that item there has several) But, I had kept that one in mind for some time as a good money maker.... But, sales would be limited by how much something like that would cost, and as soon as you develope a market for it Greenlee would start making one and absorb your market share through compitition. For instance, the "No-dog Level", now all kinds of companies make an item simular, but have a grip on distribtion.
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I suspect that there would be enough differences in the implementation of the idea that it isn't just a repurposed remote control fishing pole. The real obstacle is that this entire discussion counts as "publication", so anything that's been discussed here, in public, is now either impossible to patent or significantly more difficult. Moral of the story -- when you get a patentable idea, be as absolutely vague as humanly possible.

Patents are based on their "claims" and it's the "claims" that matter, not what it looks like (unless it's a design patent, but I could care less about them ...). I have an invention disclosure (one of several, but I'm thinking of one in particular) I'm trying to scrape up money to file and it looks very much like something else whose patent expired years ago, but the actual mechanics of the device are radically different. And based on conversations I've seen here, y'all would love to be able to buy them in the store tomorrow and would already be familiar with how to use them.

As regards the "No-Dog Level", I looked up the inventor, Ron Aubrey, in the USPTO database and couldn't find anything with his name on it (and I scanned 389 abstracts ...). My guess is that he either didn't file for a patent, or he didn't think he could get one, or he might have mentioned the idea to the wrong person and lost the ability to patent it.

I do have another big money maker in mind that could be patented (I think by improving a control) but the body of the idea is centuries old, just not available for field use. What it is, I'm not tellin'.....
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"Not telling" is a good idea. But you need to make sure that the improvement to the control is something that's not obvious to a person "reasonably skilled in the art".

Your best bet is getting a consultation with an intellectual property lawyer, or finding a close trusted friend who's been successful at patenting things, getting them under a non-disclosure agreement, and discussing the merits. That's actually a better first step than visiting an IP lawyer because people who've successfully patented things often find ways to extend and strengthen patents. I have two applications at the USPTO right now that started off with a very simple, ellegant invention originally conceived of by a co-worker, which he brought to me to review and improve. By the time he and I and a third co-worker were done with it, it was a much larger disclosure, covering a significantly larger area of intellectual real estate.
 
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