Opinion

Opinion

  • 0-5% is not needed

    Votes: 19 42.2%

  • 5-25% is not needed

    Votes: 14 31.1%

  • Over 50% is fluff

    Votes: 10 22.2%

  • Should be retired as bathroom reading.

    Votes: 2 4.4%

  • We should use IEC Documents.

    Votes: 2 4.4%
  • Total voters
    45
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Its all needed if you do all the work. The majority of electricians will never use more than 50-60% (Just a WAG - Wild %$# Guess) but its all needed.
 
weressl said:
What is the general view of the usefullness of the NEC in your personal opinion?

1. 0-5%
2. 5-25%
3. Over 50%
4. Should be retired as bathroom reading.:D
5. We should use IEC Documents.
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I believe you should include a check off box for all who think the NEC is the
most magnificant book ever writen and should retain 100% forever.
 
iwire said:
:D


I went with 'Over 50% is fluff'.
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I agree with Bob.

I like the way certain articles are written, like 210, 680, and some others, but it seems no matter what they do with 250 everyone is still confused.

I've always said the 250 could be cleaned up easy enough; 250.1 ground the following.......250.2 bond the following......That's it, no exception for materials, everything gets grounded with the same size wire as the current carring conductors and everything gets bonded based on the size of the main breaker.

Of course 90.4 wouldn't change.:grin: :D
 
iwire said:
:D


I went with 'Over 50% is fluff'.
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I would have to agree. It is obviously necessary, but when I started learning and studying it became rather obvious NEC was trying to legislate stupidity and it just doesn't work. Too much gets clouded because some study group in ______________(insert location here :wink: ) found that 6 out of 10 people were't bright enough to take their hair dryer out of the sink before brushing there teeth, etc. I like being accountable to a standard, though. If it wasn't the forum I would have quit and gone into engineering a long time ago. :grin: ;)
 
wbalsam1 said:
I would say there's very little "fluff" in the NEC and therefore I am having a hard time understanding where there is 50% "fluff". :confused:
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IMO the some of the fluff is sections requiring the installation of certain outlets. The sections requiring a minimum size service, not the calcs, the actual minimums.

IMO the NEC has no place forcing the installation of receptacles where the homeowner does not want them. I feel the NEC should restrict itself to how to install electrical equipment not when to install electrical equipment.
 
You ask about usefulness should not the choices have related to that aspect as in

not useful

somewhat useful

useful

very useful

and

wicked useful:smile:
 
I think about 10 percent is wasted by repetition and the rest is used incorrectly as a design manual..minumum safety standards not design manual..

edited to add: Even the code it self is starting to lean toward a design manual by requiring specifics instead of generals..
 
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iwire said:
IMO the NEC has no place forcing the installation of receptacles where the homeowner does not want them. I feel the NEC should restrict itself to how to install electrical equipment not when to install electrical equipment.
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Bob I will have to disagree on that one. Most people really don't own homes they just rent them from the bank for awhile.

One of the major causes of fires was the use of extension cords because of the lack of receptacles in the right places. If you give the temporary homeowner the choice on how many receptacles to install then you would never have over two in any room ( trying to keep the cost down). The next homewowner comes in and these two receptacles are not where they are needed and now it's so expensive to add them where needed people would tend to use extension cords.

It's better and probably cheaper in the long run just to require receptacles in certain locations. Wire it right the first time and be done with it.

As usual this is just my opinion.
 
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