outdoor receptacles
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I am getting into this one late, and I must admit that I don?t have the energy this morning to read all comments in depth, and weigh the arguments on all sides, before I offer my own opinion. I?ll start here:
But grammar and writing styles aside, here is my reasoning. It is not physically possible for a single family dwelling unit to not have some connection to planet earth. I speak of a building that is entirely a dwelling unit, and that does not also serve some other type of function. I do not speak, for example, of an office building that has a penthouse apartment for a single family. Thus, a single family dwelling unit will be in contact with the planet, and it will need the one receptacle under discussion.
On the other hand, it is possible for a two-family dwelling unit to have one unit in contact with the planet, and the other unit constructed above it. Thus, the lower unit will require the receptacle under discussion, and the upper unit will not.
That is how I see the distinction. That is why I read the sentence as saying a single family unit requires this receptacle, and that one of the two units in a two-family unit would only need a receptacle if the unit were in contact with planet Earth.
Yes, ?grammatical? is a word. But you are the one who is mistaken in your interpretation of English grammar. First, the word ?and? separates the sentence into two independent concepts. There are single family homes, and there are multi-family homes, and the word ?and? causes the sentence to address them separately. But most importantly, the key word is ?that.? As used in this code article, the word ?that? begins a phrase, and it points to the word immediately preceding it. It points to the word ?dwelling,? in the phrase ?two-family dwelling.? It does not point beyond the word ?and? to a word or phrase further back in the sentence.mxslick said:
But grammar and writing styles aside, here is my reasoning. It is not physically possible for a single family dwelling unit to not have some connection to planet earth. I speak of a building that is entirely a dwelling unit, and that does not also serve some other type of function. I do not speak, for example, of an office building that has a penthouse apartment for a single family. Thus, a single family dwelling unit will be in contact with the planet, and it will need the one receptacle under discussion.
On the other hand, it is possible for a two-family dwelling unit to have one unit in contact with the planet, and the other unit constructed above it. Thus, the lower unit will require the receptacle under discussion, and the upper unit will not.
That is how I see the distinction. That is why I read the sentence as saying a single family unit requires this receptacle, and that one of the two units in a two-family unit would only need a receptacle if the unit were in contact with planet Earth.
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charlie b said:
Charlie, I agree with you interpretation of the sentence containing the word and. Not to get off onto a different subject but would you agree that in the sentence below the word and has the same meaning as in the sentence relating to this post? It think that it does, but was wondering if you have the same opinion?
Jim W in Tampa
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Whats the differance between my unit sitting on stilts or sitting on top of another unit.hillbilly said:
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Jim W in Tampa said:
One is grade level and one is not.
Read Charlie's post for a better explanation.
Jim W in Tampa
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I am trying hard to read it his way.This is where we need an english degree.Lets just say the wording is very poor.Now tell me if i place them facing in under the building will they meet the required 2 i needed ?
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I agree. To be clear, I read that sentence as talking about,infinity said:
(1) All metal piping systems,
and
(2) All grounded metal parts in contact with the circulating water.
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charlie b said:
Thanks Charlie. I know that it's off of the OP topic but I had this conversation with a few people and their take on the actually meaning of a sentence with the word and between two phrases differed.
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