outdoor romex in pvc pipe run underground

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ceb58 said:
Jimmy, first you need to get your termanology correct. Romex is a trade name. There is no outdoor rated Romex. Art.334 for NM cable read its permitted and not permitted uses. then look at Art. 340 for underground cable.
You did not state the voltage of the water pump so lets say it is 240v the amps would be around 12amp. If your longest run is indoors then you can run #10 NM (Romex) to a junction box then change to #10 UF to make the transition to underground direct buried. On a 20amp breaker. The only thing the #10 will do is keep you from having too much voltage drop.
You need to supply more info on the welder such as duty cycle.

As Dennis said if these two are going to the same structure then it is a violation.
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how is it a violation if you have two seperate circuits going to same structure can u please explain thank u
 
raider1 said:
225.30 only permits a single branch circuit or feeder to supply a structure. Keep in mind that a multiwire branch circuit is considered a single branch circuit for this section.

So 2 branch circuits would be a violation of this section.

Chris
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ok thank u i read the article. would this be a violation then i supplied a garage with a mwbc 14-3 for general lighting and also had a 240 volt assemble 12-2 for baseboard heat in pvc pipe going to the garage..
 
romex jockey101 said:
ok thank u i read the article. would this be a violation then i supplied a garage with a mwbc 14-3 for general lighting and also had a 240 volt assemble 12-2 for baseboard heat in pvc pipe going to the garage..
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Yes, and if the cable in the PVC is NM you have another violation.

Roger
 
i read the article225.30 i understand you cant have more than one feeder supplying a structure..but does that count if your supplying more than 1 spicific equipment.....so if you have a structure you have to have one set of feeders that supply a sub panel then ...
 
romex jockey101 said:
i read the article225.30 i understand you cant have more than one feeder OR BRANCH CIRCUIT supplying a structure..but does that count if your supplying more than 1 spicific equipment.....Rule still counts so if you have a structure you have to have one set of feeders that supply a sub panel then ...
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that's pretty much the choice... and don't forget you have to establish a grounding electrode system at the sepaate structure when you run the feeder.
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roger said:
Yes, and if the cable in the PVC is NM you have another violation.

Roger
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thank u for ure time..so detached garages need a gounding electrode to even if its grounded through the main panel on the egc...so i should have ran feeders to a sub panel then ok now i no...no i used uf rated for underground...if i wear to of sized my sub panle for 2 general lighting circuits and 2 8ft baseboards would i put in a demand factor like sq ft times 3 va for general lighting or just add up loads......
 
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