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I was working with another crew at work and there head guy told me that when you have a switched receptacle ( outside for land scaping) that one side has to be constant hot. Is this true? And where could I find it in the NEC?
 
monkey_man_100 said:
I was working with another crew at work and there head guy told me that when you have a switched receptacle ( outside for land scaping) that one side has to be constant hot. Is this true? And where could I find it in the NEC?
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It's not in the NEC. It might be his preference, or print specs, or a customer request. In any case, if he's the boss... he's right.
 
mdshunk said:
It's not in the NEC. It might be his preference, or print specs, or a customer request. In any case, if he's the boss... he's right.
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This is the out come of many bosses that think they know more than they do.Your choices are few.Show him up with code that makes him look like an a$$ and you win, but likely will be leaving the company soon. Or just let him win and know what he really is.Or try it this way,ask him to help you find it in the code book.Likely answer is i am too busy to do that.And that's very true because he never will.Let him think he won and he will be carefull not to confront you again unlees he can back it up.I had one of them that said "any electrician knows you cant splice in a panel and i will not argue with you" I just let him think he was right and hope he looked it up later. This is often a problem with 30 year guys that stopped reading.
 
I get requests to switch the outdoor receptacles for homes that are part year or recreational dwellings. The owners don't want others stealing power when they are away for months.
 
monkey_man_100 said:
thanks, I guess I'll see if I have a job tommorow when I tell him he is wrong.
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Well, he didn't say it was code, did he? He just said "it has to..." Don't rule out company standards. Things like color codes and such certain materials for certain situations are company standards. It may be a company standard to do half hots when you have outdoor switched recs. Perhaps they've been screwed enough times needing a constand hot source at the landscape recs that they do half hots from now on? You never know. Tread lightly, is my advice. Ask questions and poke around a little first.
 
monkey_man_100 said:
thanks, I guess I'll see if I have a job tommorow when I tell him he is wrong.
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Dont ever go that route.Maybe your smarter maybe not.Do not back him into a corner that makes him dislike you or fire you.Try to nicely ask him where in the code this is at while not letting him know you know he cant.There is politics in this job.Ask him to help you find this section when you 2 are alone.Right now you know what he is.Dont push or hound just ask once.At this point he either checks or his head is so high that if it rains he drowns.
 
mdshunk said:
I get requests to switch the outdoor receptacles for homes that are part year or recreational dwellings. The owners don't want others stealing power when they are away for months.
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In the hood this just might be a problem.LOL

NEC never said we cant switch any thing short of maybe fire pumps
 
monkey_man_100 said:
He did say it was code. But I know that if he's not breaking the code I'll just do like he says. I like my job.
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I hate to say it this way but its close to x mas and it might just be best to let him think he is right.JAN 2ND invite him to this forum.There have been countless things i thought were code untill i joined this forum a few years ago.Never back the boss into a corner.
 
Jim W in Tampa said:
I hate to say it this way but its close to x mas and it might just be best to let him think he is right.JAN 2ND invite him to this forum.There have been countless things i thought were code untill i joined this forum a few years ago.Never back the boss into a corner.
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