Oven outlet in garage

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Saturn_Europa

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I have a customer that wanted me to install an outlet on her covered deck to for a brand new oven she had just bought. Told her to return the oven and get a propane grill with a cook top (she wants an outside oven for cooking fish and spices). She called me back today, the oven is not returnable. Now she wants a outlet for the oven in the garage. :slaphead: I think its a little crazy/fire hazard and I am not going to do it. Its in a super upscale neighborhood and I want to keep them as customers. I would really like to be able to point something out in barring me from doing this. All I have found in the NEC so far is article 422 and 210 which dont say anything about where the oven can be placed.
 
Put it on a GFCI if you are concerned, as far as fire hazard the propane grill is probably a higher hazard.
 
Besides, in the summer you might not want the oven in the air conditioned house.
 
I would say it is not in conflict with any electrical code article. I can't speak for building codes. If you do put the outlet in the garage, I would suggest to the owner that it would be appropriate to add a vent hood that vents to the outside world.
 
Saturn_Europa said:
Maybe I am over thinking it
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Saturn_Europa said:
Cooking in the garage just sounds just very odd to me.
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Over my career I have worked on, and around, "canning kitchens" that "those who have the where-with-all" install. That always made sense to me that one would set up a separate work area for putting food by, because the process is a multi day one, compared with making lunch or dinner.

If one can afford it, why not install a separate area to sequester strong cooking odors / aromatic oils (fish & spices)? Individuals with environmental sensitivities may be present, as well.
 
al hildenbrand said:
Over my career I have worked on, and around, "canning kitchens" that "those who have the where-with-all" install. That always made sense to me that one would set up a separate work area for putting food by, because the process is a multi day one, compared with making lunch or dinner.

If one can afford it, why not install a separate area to sequester strong cooking odors / aromatic oils (fish & spices)? Individuals with environmental sensitivities may be present, as well.
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In old Italian neighborhoods here in northern NJ, it is very common to have a second kitchen in the basement.
 
I would tell her to post the oven on Facebook Marketplace, Nextdoor, Let's Go or etc and sell it to get rid of it. Gas/Propane is the way to go here. She should be able to get rid of it no problem, might have to take a little bit of a loss on it.
 
I would never ask a customer to get rid of an appliance they just bought if there is no reason to do so. There is nothing non compliant so just hook it up.
 
Neighbor has electric stove, sink DW, and fridge in his garage.
I have a stove in mine.

I'd never put a gas stove in my garage though, simply safer with electrical.

Only problem have ever had with AHJ for appliances in the garage was that they wanted TR outlets even in the garage if under 54" height or not over a counter - might be little kids crawling on the floor, eh?
 
junkhound said:
Neighbor has electric stove, sink DW, and fridge in his garage.
I have a stove in mine.

I'd never put a gas stove in my garage though, simply safer with electrical.

Only problem have ever had with AHJ for appliances in the garage was that they wanted TR outlets even in the garage if under 54" height or not over a counter - might be little kids crawling on the floor, eh?
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TR should be expected to be required in a dwelling garage other than those above 5.5 feet high.

Garages are mentioned in 210.52, so TR applies to them
 
infinity said:
Gas or electric oven? Don't open flame sources have restrictions in garages?
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At least here in CA, gas water heaters, and I expect any other gas appliance, has to be a certain height above the floor. About 18 inches or so. So if there is a gasoline or propane (bbq) spill, it is less likely to ignite.
 
I have wired stoves/ranges in garages, basements, out buildings, most of which were for canning purposes. Nothing wrong with it, wire it for the customer, collect money, come back later for dinner!:happyyes:
 
Saturn_Europa said:
I have a customer that wanted me to install an outlet on her covered deck to for a brand new oven she had just bought. Told her to return the oven and get a propane grill with a cook top (she wants an outside oven for cooking fish and spices). She called me back today, the oven is not returnable. Now she wants a outlet for the oven in the garage. :slaphead: I think its a little crazy/fire hazard and I am not going to do it. Its in a super upscale neighborhood and I want to keep them as customers. I would really like to be able to point something out in barring me from doing this. All I have found in the NEC so far is article 422 and 210 which dont say anything about where the oven can be placed.
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ok. Everyone getting hooked on her second item, the garage. But you said her first request was for her covered porch. Here in Jamaica we have loads of people with their kitchens on covered porches, a stove, fridge, sometimes even freezer, etc... and some of the richer ones want electric rather than gas or wood... as long as you have a way of cutting power and covering for certain storms it is fine... just like putting outside receptacles on a home but usually not as much water going to get to it....

However, I would use outdoor boxes etc...more expensive but sounds like she won't care as long as it is all safe. Guy I know had several Canvas Covers made for his outdoor kitchen to protect it if a storm came up while he was at work.
 
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