Overloaded lighting circuits...Why no phone call?

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as an electrician myself I notice engineering screw ups all the time on plans and I would have caught the fixture wattage discrepancy.
 
It's also entirely possible that what the drawing shows is not what was actually built. that happens a lot. It's best not to get involved in some potential screw up that somebody else made unless you have to. I would just leave it be for now unless there's some reason you need to get involved in it.
 
ptonsparky said:
I believe there is always a phrase in the documents that you, as the EC, are responsible for not correcting those screw ups.
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not???

Usually there is some kind of blanket statement that the installation has to comply with the national electrical code.

That doesn't mean the electrical contractor is responsible to pay to fix someone else's screw up.
 
petersonra said:
not???

Usually there is some kind of blanket statement that the installation has to comply with the national electrical code.

That doesn't mean the electrical contractor is responsible to pay to fix someone else's screw up.
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But if you're the last one to do any work on the system, you're on the hook for any downfall of previous "screw ups" even though not yours.

When "screw up" is found on engineers design print submitted to me I usually call for clerification, armed with code references.
Biggest issues I've seen is conflicts with other mechanicals, on the larger projects there seems to be a lack of communication between engineers designing the various components and the designs don't mesh, code violations due to encroachment by other mechanicals into dedicated spaces, etc.
 
Fred B said:
But if you're the last one to do any work on the system, you're on the hook for any downfall of previous "screw ups" even though not yours.

When "screw up" is found on engineers design print submitted to me I usually call for clerification, armed with code references.
Biggest issues I've seen is conflicts with other mechanicals, on the larger projects there seems to be a lack of communication between engineers designing the various components and the designs don't mesh, code violations due to encroachment by other mechanicals into dedicated spaces, etc.
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You are not on the hook for anybody else's screw ups unless you take the hook and make it yours. The only thing you have to do is tell the general contractor or whoever it is that is paying you about the problem and tell them you can't continue work until they fix it.

For reasons that escape me, people take it upon themselves to fix other peoples' screw ups and then complain that it cost them money.
 
petersonra said:
You are not on the hook for anybody else's screw ups unless you take the hook and make it yours. The only thing you have to do is tell the general contractor or whoever it is that is paying you about the problem and tell them you can't continue work until they fix it.

For reasons that escape me, people take it upon themselves to fix other peoples' screw ups and then complain that it cost them money.
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Only on hook from a perspective of defending legally that any occurring damages was not due to your work, but was from prior noncompliant work.
 
Fred B said:
Only on hook from a perspective of defending legally that any occurring damages was not due to your work, but was from prior noncompliant work.
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If you knew there was prior non-compliant work why would you get involved in it in the first place?

People always want to make this kind of problem a lot worse than it really is. You are a responsible for whatever you do. You are not responsible for what someone else did.

Even if you are perfect you may have to defend your work if something goes wrong. That's why you have insurance so it's no longer your problem. The insurance company is being paid to make it their problem.
 
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