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Oversized decorative "Jelly Jar" lights

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VirutalElectrician

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A customer saw this light for sale, and wants to buy similar. (Wife saw it and now wants one too... :) ). The person who posted the picture doesn't know where it came from or who made it. I tried Google Lens, but it didn't come up with a match either.

It sorta looks like a decorative light you'd see along a park pathway or something.


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Little Bill

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That looks like a light for a hazardous area. Looks like someone painted it and modified it, then either used it for general lighting, or made it to sell.
 

gadfly56

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Given its size, I wonder if it's for a marine application, or intended for large structure illumination, or hazard warning as Little Bill suggested.
 

VirutalElectrician

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Given its size, I wonder if it's for a marine application, or intended for large structure illumination, or hazard warning as Little Bill suggested.
The wifey thinks it's a marine light as well. I don't think it's a hazzardous location light, it doesn't have enough guarding around it, and I can't find a hazzardous light anywhere near this big.

I also can't find anyone who makes a jelly jar that size.
 

gadfly56

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The wifey thinks it's a marine light as well. I don't think it's a hazzardous location light, it doesn't have enough guarding around it, and I can't find a hazzardous light anywhere near this big.

I also can't find anyone who makes a jelly jar that size.
Yeah, I gave it a quick Google, but there's only so far I'll go down that rabbit hole.
 

hbiss

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I checked hazard warning lights for towers, rooftops and marine from Federal Signal. Nothing that large. Likely what that is an antique. Could be a hazard warning or, like you say from a light post. Even from a ship.

-Hal
 

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This is the best I could do .. Google search ....Vintage waterproof cage red light marine industrial lighting

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VirutalElectrician

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Well, the mystery has been solved! The price was more than fair so we decided to just go buy the thing. It was a bit of a drive but it was a nice day.

The thing is obviously heavy, probably 40 pounds. But a good chunk of that weight is the ballast it currently has in it.

The jar is actually thin polycarbonate, not glass as I assumed it was.

It was made in 2015.

So who made it? It was a lighting line called "Antique Street lamp" by Acuity. The line was discontinued several years ago.

Now I need to figure out how to hang it properly.
 

texie

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Well, the mystery has been solved! The price was more than fair so we decided to just go buy the thing. It was a bit of a drive but it was a nice day.

The thing is obviously heavy, probably 40 pounds. But a good chunk of that weight is the ballast it currently has in it.

The jar is actually thin polycarbonate, not glass as I assumed it was.

It was made in 2015.

So who made it? It was a lighting line called "Antique Street lamp" by Acuity. The line was discontinued several years ago.

Now I need to figure out how to hang it properly.
It is a cool looking fixture. Be nice for just the right spot.
 

VirutalElectrician

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You might want to rethink the use of the 150W MH lamp, depending on where.

-Hal
I plan on taking out the ballast and using a 120v LED bulb. I need to find something decorative that sorta looks and gives the same glow as a MH bulb.
Now that we have something to go on...

Look at page 4 at model EC13RT Copenhagen series. Thumb through the catalog to see how it could be mounted.

https://issuu.com/alconlighting/docs/antique_street_lamps

-Hal
Thanks, I hadn't had a chance to dig deeper yet....

The catalog says they are designed to mount on a swing arm....I looked at their swing arms and it says they include a swivel for mounting the fixture. Of course there's no picture of said swivel, and the product line is long gone. I suppose I could email Acuity support and see if they would send me a picture.

The hole at the top is smooth, so I'm guessing there was a hollow rod that went into the fixture, maybe with threads at the botton to attach the fixture with a nut, and then run the wires through the rod into the arm.

I think my best route is to measure the hole in the fixture and drill it out to 7/16, tap it, and use something like an Eaton fixture hook to hang it on a chain with. Eaton Fixture hooks

I'm all ears if someone has a better idea.
 

Little Bill

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I plan on taking out the ballast and using a 120v LED bulb. I need to find something decorative that sorta looks and gives the same glow as a MH bulb.

Thanks, I hadn't had a chance to dig deeper yet....

The catalog says they are designed to mount on a swing arm....I looked at their swing arms and it says they include a swivel for mounting the fixture. Of course there's no picture of said swivel, and the product line is long gone. I suppose I could email Acuity support and see if they would send me a picture.

The hole at the top is smooth, so I'm guessing there was a hollow rod that went into the fixture, maybe with threads at the botton to attach the fixture with a nut, and then run the wires through the rod into the arm.

I think my best route is to measure the hole in the fixture and drill it out to 7/16, tap it, and use something like an Eaton fixture hook to hang it on a chain with. Eaton Fixture hooks

I'm all ears if someone has a better idea.
Since we are typing our responses, it would be better if you were "all eyes"!:D
 

hbiss

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I would have thought that the hub on top was tapped for something like 1/2" pipe.

How you hang or mount it depends on where it's going. Indoors, outdoors, wall, ceiling, pole?
I plan on taking out the ballast and using a 120v LED bulb. I need to find something decorative that sorta looks and gives the same glow as a MH bulb.

MH doesn't glow it LIGHTS. If you want the same effect, use a 5000K LED bulb for the same color temperature, it's just not as bright.

-Hal
 

VirutalElectrician

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I searched far and wide for a 1/2" hollow bolt. Lots of metric stuff but only 2 SAE sources that I could find. Some surplus dealer on eBay selling old space craft bolts and an exercise equipment dealer that uses them to put some weight holding cable through... $16 each plus $8 shipping to get a bolt.

So I tapped the hole and ran the bolt up through the bottom and used a 1/2” eye nut to hang it with. The bolt has a .27" opening so I used some 18/3 SOV cable that has a diameter of .26".

It'll hang nicely in the entry way on a length of chain.

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Spent $60 on a bulb for it. It has a nice glow.

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